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Obviously FSB is not going to make a press release and be like "We have the keys LOL" so there would never be definitive proof. Fun fact: Telegram at some poin

by Glacia 2y ago

Obviously FSB is not going to make a press release and be like "We have the keys LOL" so there would never be definitive proof. Fun fact: Telegram at some point was blocked in Russia for not giving FSB access to data. Later telegram was unblocked and is used extensively in Russia. It's not hard to figure out why it was unblocked.

ivanmontillam 2y ago
> It's not hard to figure out why it was unblocked. If you're implying it's backdoored, that's a wild mental gymnastics you made there. No hate, but your comment is speculative in nature.
k1ndl1 2y ago
It was unblocked because of the backlash from people, incl. Russian politicians who are heavy Telegram users. FSB has nothing to do with it.
- Glacia 2y ago
  >It was unblocked because of the backlash from people, incl. Russian politicians who are heavy Telegram users. FSB has nothing to do with it. Saying Russian government would give a shit about people opinions, funny joke.
roveo 2y ago
Telegram wasn't fully blocked in Russia even for a single day. They tried to block it and failed miserably. The team actively circumvented the blocking by deploying to new IPs faster than they were blocked, and in addition to that every IT guy in Russia had a tgproxy instance running for family and friends. After a while they just stopped trying and decided that it's less reputational damage to just let it be.
- Glacia 2y ago
  >After a while they just stopped trying and decided that it's less reputational damage to just let it be. That's not true. It's legally unblocked. the reason why it was unblocked was never published. "It was unblocked because they gave up" is just your interpretation of the events. Pretty naive one, in my opinion.
perchlorate 2y ago
This is pure FUD. They're still trying to block it, the latest three attempts happened this week. Two of them were done in the middle of the night as training exercise, maybe for 3-4 hours each, and the last one then happened in the middle of the day. All three broke large parts of the internet and were quickly reverted. When something newsworthy happens in some region, all messengers get blocked in that region for days, Telegram included. They don't care about collateral damage to other websites then.
- cactusplant7374 2y ago
  What is an example of something that is newsworthy?
  - perchlorate 2y ago
    Here is a couple of typical examples when blocking is limited to a single region: https://storage.googleapis.com/gsc-link/cbe9d20e.html https://storage.googleapis.com/gsc-link/cbe9d20e.html https://t.me/agentstvonews/4973 https://t.me/agentstvonews/4973 https://t.me/meduzalive/94295 https://t.me/meduzalive/94295
- CoastalCoder 2y ago
  I'm curious how the people attempting news blackouts reason about it. I doubt they explicitly say to themselves, "Today I do evil for fun and profit.". I wonder what their rationalization is.
- Glacia 2y ago
  You're the one who is spreading FUD. Telegram was officially (legally) unblocked in 2020. There is 0 evidence there is an active force trying to block Telegram in Russia. Which is very busy blocking every non-russian platform btw. As you yourself pointed out, most likely the reason why TG was down is because of attempts to block other platforms.
  - perchlorate 2y ago
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by Glacia 2y ago

ivanmontillam 2y ago

> It's not hard to figure out why it was unblocked. If you're implying it's backdoored, that's a wild mental gymnastics you made there. No hate, but your comment is speculative in nature.

k1ndl1 2y ago

It was unblocked because of the backlash from people, incl. Russian politicians who are heavy Telegram users. FSB has nothing to do with it.

Glacia 2y ago
>It was unblocked because of the backlash from people, incl. Russian politicians who are heavy Telegram users. FSB has nothing to do with it. Saying Russian government would give a shit about people opinions, funny joke.

roveo 2y ago

Telegram wasn't fully blocked in Russia even for a single day. They tried to block it and failed miserably. The team actively circumvented the blocking by deploying to new IPs faster than they were blocked, and in addition to that every IT guy in Russia had a tgproxy instance running for family and friends. After a while they just stopped trying and decided that it's less reputational damage to just let it be.

Glacia 2y ago
>After a while they just stopped trying and decided that it's less reputational damage to just let it be. That's not true. It's legally unblocked. the reason why it was unblocked was never published. "It was unblocked because they gave up" is just your interpretation of the events. Pretty naive one, in my opinion.

perchlorate 2y ago

This is pure FUD. They're still trying to block it, the latest three attempts happened this week. Two of them were done in the middle of the night as training exercise, maybe for 3-4 hours each, and the last one then happened in the middle of the day. All three broke large parts of the internet and were quickly reverted. When something newsworthy happens in some region, all messengers get blocked in that region for days, Telegram included. They don't care about collateral damage to other websites then.

cactusplant7374 2y ago
What is an example of something that is newsworthy?
- perchlorate 2y ago
  Here is a couple of typical examples when blocking is limited to a single region: https://storage.googleapis.com/gsc-link/cbe9d20e.html https://storage.googleapis.com/gsc-link/cbe9d20e.html https://t.me/agentstvonews/4973 https://t.me/agentstvonews/4973 https://t.me/meduzalive/94295 https://t.me/meduzalive/94295
CoastalCoder 2y ago
I'm curious how the people attempting news blackouts reason about it. I doubt they explicitly say to themselves, "Today I do evil for fun and profit.". I wonder what their rationalization is.
Glacia 2y ago
You're the one who is spreading FUD. Telegram was officially (legally) unblocked in 2020. There is 0 evidence there is an active force trying to block Telegram in Russia. Which is very busy blocking every non-russian platform btw. As you yourself pointed out, most likely the reason why TG was down is because of attempts to block other platforms.
- perchlorate 2y ago
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