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- lxgr 2y agoTelegram has, by design, message content accessible to whoever runs the servers. WhatsApp has gone to great lengths to not have that. Obviously there’s client security, potential backdoors, unencrypted backups, and many other things to worry about. But I don’t see a scenario where it fares worse than Telegram, and many where it’s significantly better.
- arresin 2y agoWhatsapp has to have some kind of escape hatch if not back door simply because of the amount of heat it doesn’t get (think of all the regimes who are ok with it).
- lxgr 2y agoI believe that escape hatch to be cloud backups, which are heavily encouraged by the UI and not end-to-end encrypted by default. iMessage has made the same compromise. As long as enough people click that checkbox, law enforcement has access and Meta/Apple are out of the news without having lied about or hidden anything.
- evilfred 2y agotelegram is undoubtedly influenced by the Russian govt https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat/ https://www.wired.com/story/the-kremlin-has-entered-the-chat...
- jimbob45 2y agoMy understanding is that WhatsApp has never made claims comparable to Telegram or Signal. I also can’t tell if you’re being sincere. I was under the impression that Telegram was considered significantly less secure than Signal and that the matter was mostly settled. I’ve been seeing the following talking points repeated for years now. https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/xk1jdw/comment/ipbvbx0/ https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/xk1jdw/comment/ipbv...