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> So what happened to Turbo Pascal? Three things, at least, contributed to its eventual downfall The fourth thing is that it lives on as Delphi: https://www.e

> So what happened to Turbo Pascal? Three things, at least, contributed to its eventual downfall The fourth thing is that it lives on as Delphi: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi And there's Free Pascal and Lazarus. One of the goals of Free Pascal is to be Turbo Pascal and Delphi compatible: https://www.freepascal.org/ https://www.freepascal.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/

eps 2y ago
> it lives on as Delphi Regrettably, Delphi is closer to a zombie now than to something that's alive.
- eegufer 2y ago
  Its true. I think the brain drain has had a severe impact on the evolution of the language as it exists in Delphi. However, some implementations, such as Oxygene, appear to evolve rapidly.
netsharc 2y ago
You mentioning Delphi reminds me of the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg, a large model railroad with a day/night cycle, cars driving on the roads and planes "landing" and "taking off", a lot of it controlled with Delphi: https://www.embarcadero.com/case-study/miniatur-wunderland-case-study https://www.embarcadero.com/case-study/miniatur-wunderland-c... A video of their control center with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SGsxauu7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SGsxauu7o
- ghosty141 2y ago
  I dont even want to imagine how that codebase looks. The delphi code I‘ve come into contact with (not a delphi dev myself but worked close to them) tended to be quite bad by modern standards. The reason why was generally similar: not very experienced devs in the 90s needed to something with a UI off the ground.
  - mike_hearn 2y ago
    More important was the lack of refactoring support, I think. The ordering and circulatory constraints on source choice also didn't help.
fortran77 2y ago
It also lives on as .NET and C#, at least a little bit.
- eegufer 2y ago
  and Typescript....

eps 2y ago

> it lives on as Delphi Regrettably, Delphi is closer to a zombie now than to something that's alive.

eegufer 2y ago
Its true. I think the brain drain has had a severe impact on the evolution of the language as it exists in Delphi. However, some implementations, such as Oxygene, appear to evolve rapidly.

netsharc 2y ago

You mentioning Delphi reminds me of the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg, a large model railroad with a day/night cycle, cars driving on the roads and planes "landing" and "taking off", a lot of it controlled with Delphi: https://www.embarcadero.com/case-study/miniatur-wunderland-case-study https://www.embarcadero.com/case-study/miniatur-wunderland-c... A video of their control center with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SGsxauu7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SGsxauu7o

ghosty141 2y ago
I dont even want to imagine how that codebase looks. The delphi code I‘ve come into contact with (not a delphi dev myself but worked close to them) tended to be quite bad by modern standards. The reason why was generally similar: not very experienced devs in the 90s needed to something with a UI off the ground.
- mike_hearn 2y ago
  More important was the lack of refactoring support, I think. The ordering and circulatory constraints on source choice also didn't help.

fortran77 2y ago

It also lives on as .NET and C#, at least a little bit.

eegufer 2y ago
and Typescript....