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I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude. The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
by paradite 2y ago
I've replaced 99% of Google search with ChstGPT and more recently Claude.
The experience is much superior. No noise, just the information that I needed.
- croes 2y agoThat's how Google started. Then they needed revenue. Enjoy it til it lasts but there will be ads and AI search optimizations.
- cmcaleer 2y agoGoogle didn't have 90%-as-good-as-Google locally running search engines to compete against, though.
- svnt 2y agoGoogle never charged $20/mo. No one would pay it. This is different.
- croes 2y agoI doubt Google search hardware was as expensive as ChatGPTs is. OpenAI needs MS for support.
- dartos 2y agoYou know that’s because Google sells ads, not search, right? B2B software always has a bigger upside than consumer software.
- svnt 2y agoIt’s difficult to find a response for this that doesn’t descend into sarcasm. By revenue, Microsoft’s gaming business is roughly the same size as Salesforce and Intuit combined. What you possibly meant to say is individual accounts always have a bigger upside. The world is changing.
- dartos 2y agoI mean that if you are starting a company, as the young Google founders were back in the day, there is almost always more money in having a B2B model instead of a B2C model. If you’re one of the biggest companies in the world, you can do whatever you want. Though I’d bet that Microsoft makes more money off of their cut from 3rd party games sold on their platform than off of the sales of their first party titles alone.
- svnt 2y agoThey ran it for three or four years floundering and if I recall tried to sell to Excite for $1M but failed before they bought Adwords and it started to work for them. I don’t think it is some universal truth, but it was the reality of the time that people wouldn’t pay for search so they pivoted into advertising.
- ecocentrik 2y agoIt's unfair to compare LLMs to early or even late stage Google. Early Google was a very simple keyword search engine. Entering a question would confuse the algorithm returning results that sometimes matched the lower value words in your question. It was slick for the time but would feel tedious today next to the simplified output from free and local tier LLMs. The reason Google and the internet feels tedious today has less to do with Google's ads and more to do with the gamed page rank results, the mountain of ads you find on websites that have aggregated all of the content that used to be useful on the internet and the lowering of information quality over the years.
- croes 2y agoI think the comparison is valid. At the beginning Google search was all about returning the best result,but that's ruined partially because they put ads over search results and because others learned to tricked Google's algorithm. The same will happen with LLMs. Maybe not both but at least one of them.
- dartos 2y agoI disagree. Sometimes I have a question that would likely require multiple searches on Google. But sometimes I just have a name or a broad subject and don’t want to have to formulate a question and wait for a long conversation style answer. If I wanted the 8086 manual or something. It’d be extremely cumbersome to use a conversation to find it instead of typing “8086 manual pdf.” There is significant overlap, but LLM and trad search have their own independent use cases.
- paradite 2y agoI'm already doing AI search optimizations and the early results are quite promising! https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/e5tOt2MRPC https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/e5tOt2MRPC
- sva_ 2y agoI wish Claude had a better value proposition. Just 5 times as much as free doesn't sound that appealing.
- danielbln 2y agoJust use the API.