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I suspect these newer headsets have struggled because of walled gardens and crazy pricing, and thus lack of developer interest. The Oculus DK2 was just a secon

I suspect these newer headsets have struggled because of walled gardens and crazy pricing, and thus lack of developer interest. The Oculus DK2 was just a second monitor, amazingly simple and fun to develop for. One of the most developer friendly devices I worked with. Oculus CV1 proprietary driver, forced experience, worsening SDK and dropping linux basically killed the device (and VR) for me, even before fb got their grubby mits on it. So I struggle to understand these premium devices, when there seems to be no developer incentive to build for these platforms. Shame, I think VR still has some great potential, but I will never don a headset that needs an account or shows me even a single advert.

SunlitCat 2y ago
I ordered my DK2 a few hours after it got announced. The FB take over was between the release of the DK2 and the CV1 and with the CV1 (and the FB takeover) came that terrible Software.
koolala 2y ago
If Valve makes a Deckard Linux headset thats fun to dev for and achives a solid Linux VR experience it could change the field of computer science.
barrkel 2y ago
I got a Quest 3 recently, and the necessity for side-loading apps onto it to make it useful is kind of puzzling. SideQuest is almost mandatory. You can't easily copy files on or off it to network locations without CX File Explorer, side loaded from an untrusted source, hidden from the default application launcher. You'd think they'd loosen the reins a bit in order to get a bigger installed base, but it's trying to drive so hard towards this Horizon Worlds metaspace thing that I just do not give one whit for.
jncfhnb 2y ago
They struggled because they didn’t actually have good software to run
laweijfmvo 2y ago
Meta thinks they got screwed by Apple’s (and to a lesser extent Google’s) walled gardens, so now they want their own.
- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  I don't think this makes much sense. Meta sells ads. Apple and Google don't walled garden ads on apps do they? Meta doesn't use the Google and Apple ad APIs. They have their own ad marketplace, etc. I really do think it's as simple as them seeing a future where people use a different form factor from a phone to do what they do much of what they do with their phones. I think that will be something closer to Google Glass but modern day
  - laweijfmvo 2y ago
    Apple’s Ad Tracking Transparency was a major reason Meta stock went through the massive dip a few years ago, until it ended up not being that detrimental and AI hype took over. I’m sure Meta would love to track their users way more than Apple allows.
    - aprilthird2021 2y ago
      Yes but that's not "walled garden" that's just a feature they allowed users to turn on.
a2128 2y ago
I always found it funny they call the Apple Vision Pro a "spatial computer". In my view, for a computer to be a computer, it should be capable of self-hosting development of its own software and operating system. But the Apple Vision Pro can't do that, to develop software for it you need to plug it into a computer

SunlitCat 2y ago

I ordered my DK2 a few hours after it got announced. The FB take over was between the release of the DK2 and the CV1 and with the CV1 (and the FB takeover) came that terrible Software.

koolala 2y ago

If Valve makes a Deckard Linux headset thats fun to dev for and achives a solid Linux VR experience it could change the field of computer science.

barrkel 2y ago

I got a Quest 3 recently, and the necessity for side-loading apps onto it to make it useful is kind of puzzling. SideQuest is almost mandatory. You can't easily copy files on or off it to network locations without CX File Explorer, side loaded from an untrusted source, hidden from the default application launcher. You'd think they'd loosen the reins a bit in order to get a bigger installed base, but it's trying to drive so hard towards this Horizon Worlds metaspace thing that I just do not give one whit for.

jncfhnb 2y ago

They struggled because they didn’t actually have good software to run

laweijfmvo 2y ago

Meta thinks they got screwed by Apple’s (and to a lesser extent Google’s) walled gardens, so now they want their own.

aprilthird2021 2y ago
I don't think this makes much sense. Meta sells ads. Apple and Google don't walled garden ads on apps do they? Meta doesn't use the Google and Apple ad APIs. They have their own ad marketplace, etc. I really do think it's as simple as them seeing a future where people use a different form factor from a phone to do what they do much of what they do with their phones. I think that will be something closer to Google Glass but modern day
- laweijfmvo 2y ago
  Apple’s Ad Tracking Transparency was a major reason Meta stock went through the massive dip a few years ago, until it ended up not being that detrimental and AI hype took over. I’m sure Meta would love to track their users way more than Apple allows.
  - aprilthird2021 2y ago
    Yes but that's not "walled garden" that's just a feature they allowed users to turn on.

a2128 2y ago

I always found it funny they call the Apple Vision Pro a "spatial computer". In my view, for a computer to be a computer, it should be capable of self-hosting development of its own software and operating system. But the Apple Vision Pro can't do that, to develop software for it you need to plug it into a computer