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Well, reddit became worse than that ~10 years ago because of the inconsistent, absurd, immature unreasonableness of a sizable fraction of mods who added suck an

Well, reddit became worse than that ~10 years ago because of the inconsistent, absurd, immature unreasonableness of a sizable fraction of mods who added suck and subtracted cool from the world. Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media platforms where community mods skew towards being drama-oriented, elitist, and/or crazy because no one else wants the job and so, like policing, it attracts certain personality disorder-like individuals.

tnias23 2y ago
I can see the function of mods being taken over by ai at some point. Pros might outweigh cons.
- immibis 2y ago
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amiga386 2y ago
Not only do the jannies do it for free, I bet Reddit could get them to pay to be moderators, in the same way that free-to-play games exist so that the "whales" (big spenders) can pay the game operator real money to have an unfair advantage over the regular player base.
- error_logic 2y ago
  As if there wasn't already an issue with corporate sponsorship of moderation in some cases. This would destroy the eusocial for-free moderation by people who simply want to create an environment they value and others benefit from in the process.
anal_reactor 2y ago
> because of the inconsistent, absurd, immature unreasonableness of a sizable fraction of human population. Most people are stupid and the only way to have something nice is to gatekeep. Every single time any community grows too large it becomes shit.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  I don't think that the newcomers are necessarely worse, but that you mainly lose the ability to know most users by name when the number grow too big.
badsectoracula 2y ago
> Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media Channel operator drama was a major thing with IRC back when it was popular (sometimes ending to like channel splits or even whole netsplits if the people involved were related to the server operators, bot/flood wars, etc), so yeah, there isn't anything specific to Reddit about it. I wasn't part of it but i am pretty sure you'd see the same patterns in Usenet back when that was popular (and despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September").
- subsection1h 2y ago
  > despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September" Usenet was the best discussion platform I've ever used. People who posted questions to comp.lang.c without first reading K&R were commonly killfiled. People who posted questions to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring newsgroups without first reading relevant W3C specs were commonly killfiled. It was awesome. Can anyone direct me to a discussion platform created during the past 25 years where people are blocked or banned for failing to RTFM? I'm not aware of any.
  - nonlogical 2y ago
    I am sure places like this have their right to exist, and they would probably be a great place to consume… without actively participating. By nature of being strict and exclusionary they will essentially tend towards becoming a relatively small exclusive club perhaps slightly bordering on being an echo chamber. Whether you consider that a bad thing or good, I am not making a judgement call here. Also the cycle/churn of software is so quick nowadays that manuals are often written as a second or third thought for majority of the projects. So I can not really blame folks for just directly probing for tribal knowledge.
  - GrantSolar 2y ago
    These are criticisms that are leveraged against stack overflow all the time. I'm more lenient on SO's stance because it at least wants (or claims to) to be a repository for truth, rather then filtering out questions because of "lol noob"

tnias23 2y ago

I can see the function of mods being taken over by ai at some point. Pros might outweigh cons.

immibis 2y ago
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amiga386 2y ago

Not only do the jannies do it for free, I bet Reddit could get them to pay to be moderators, in the same way that free-to-play games exist so that the "whales" (big spenders) can pay the game operator real money to have an unfair advantage over the regular player base.

error_logic 2y ago
As if there wasn't already an issue with corporate sponsorship of moderation in some cases. This would destroy the eusocial for-free moderation by people who simply want to create an environment they value and others benefit from in the process.

anal_reactor 2y ago

> because of the inconsistent, absurd, immature unreasonableness of a sizable fraction of human population. Most people are stupid and the only way to have something nice is to gatekeep. Every single time any community grows too large it becomes shit.

rightbyte 2y ago
I don't think that the newcomers are necessarely worse, but that you mainly lose the ability to know most users by name when the number grow too big.

badsectoracula 2y ago

> Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media Channel operator drama was a major thing with IRC back when it was popular (sometimes ending to like channel splits or even whole netsplits if the people involved were related to the server operators, bot/flood wars, etc), so yeah, there isn't anything specific to Reddit about it. I wasn't part of it but i am pretty sure you'd see the same patterns in Usenet back when that was popular (and despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September").

subsection1h 2y ago
> despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September" Usenet was the best discussion platform I've ever used. People who posted questions to comp.lang.c without first reading K&R were commonly killfiled. People who posted questions to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring newsgroups without first reading relevant W3C specs were commonly killfiled. It was awesome. Can anyone direct me to a discussion platform created during the past 25 years where people are blocked or banned for failing to RTFM? I'm not aware of any.
- nonlogical 2y ago
  I am sure places like this have their right to exist, and they would probably be a great place to consume… without actively participating. By nature of being strict and exclusionary they will essentially tend towards becoming a relatively small exclusive club perhaps slightly bordering on being an echo chamber. Whether you consider that a bad thing or good, I am not making a judgement call here. Also the cycle/churn of software is so quick nowadays that manuals are often written as a second or third thought for majority of the projects. So I can not really blame folks for just directly probing for tribal knowledge.
- GrantSolar 2y ago
  These are criticisms that are leveraged against stack overflow all the time. I'm more lenient on SO's stance because it at least wants (or claims to) to be a repository for truth, rather then filtering out questions because of "lol noob"