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how didnt porn run this over? honestly porn did advances the internet because it, and gaming, was THE usecase for most people. youtube etc wasnt there at the ti

how didnt porn run this over? honestly porn did advances the internet because it, and gaming, was THE usecase for most people. youtube etc wasnt there at the time it was porn and games. And porn and games should be the reason why VR shall sell

Flop7331 2y ago
Porn can't make the big ticket sales needed to prop up VR. It's hard enough to get a payment processor because of how often charges get disputed and fears about touching the money for illegal and abusive material. You can't be discreet about VR porning because it leaves you oblivious to your surroundings. You gotta plan ahead and really commit to the time and place. Aren't all of them propped up by being tethered to some FAANG? I highly doubt they are interested in hiring the best and brightest to build VR porn devices. I also suspect that the "kick" from porn is a voyeuristic one; i.e. most consumers would rather watch it than be in it.
trustno2 2y ago
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PaulHoule 2y ago
Apple Pro has an advantage of having no controllers to get in the way of holding your joystick. I am waiting for the 2P version which replace your partner’s image with somebody else’s.
- dartos 2y ago
  Meta quest does the same thing…
bryanrasmussen 2y ago
when porn advanced the internet did it cost 2000 dollars to get entry to the porn? I don't remember that. I think when this advancing happened it was pretty cheap, in some ways cheaper than buying a bunch of magazines. Porn advanced the internet because it was a cheaper delivery mechanism for a cheap commodity, games expanded the internet because it was a technologically innovative platform for high end products.
- BatFastard 2y ago
  Evercrack, I knew a number of people who bought 3000 dollar computers in the mid nineties to play Everquest.
  - conductr 2y ago
    I wasn't a PC gamer but I bought a Dell in late nineties for near $3k. I think that was just the going rates for anything near max on RAM or CPU, even going big on disk space could drastically up the cost back then. I think I ended up adding a upgraded GPU to that PC that cost a good deal extra, and I wasn't even a gamer! I think I just wanted to edit or watch a certain video format/quality/etc and the stock GPU card wasn't able to handle it. I don't remember exactly, but I do remember I used to collect videos of live performances from a handful of my favorite bands back then so think it might have been related to that hobby. As a side note, I had dozens of the 100 pack CD-R stacks full of these burned videos because HDD cost too much and I didn't need them to be available on demand.
- pfannkuchen 2y ago
  Inflation calculator says Vision Pro price today is $1730 in 1995 dollars. That is in the range of what a pc cost back then, I think? Like middle to high end but not out of the ballpark.
- bratwurst3000 2y ago
  PCs costs much around year 2000. and porn and email and messenger where the bonus to games. its was like “hey look counter strikes etc .. nice games” “hmm not sure” “ there is also porn” “bought”
  - bryanrasmussen 2y ago
    I bought PCs around year 1998, and I don't remember porn being in the selling point, furthermore everyone I knew in 2000 had PCs because they had to use office. PCs had already infiltrated the market at the point the internet became a going concern. In other words the internet was relatively cheap for people.
kvmet 2y ago
I think porn prefers open tooling so that it is less likely to be banned. Going inside Apple's walled garden is probably more risky in that regard and also there's only a small consumer base. There are plenty of VR apps in this category available for PC-connected headsets. You can find tons of them on Steam or Patreon.
- andruby 2y ago
  Small consumer base for porn or for the current $3000 apple headset? The immersion is really good. Apple would never allow it in their ecosystem, but OnlyFans + immersive VR could sell very well.
  - bratwurst3000 2y ago
    yeah i think apples no porn policy is ruining their vr headset and the future of vr ;). not that i am into vr porn. i only think the market for that should be huge
anvuong 2y ago
TBH I feel like if I am into VR porn then I am definitely addicted and I'd need help from professional. Usually porn is like a quick dopamine hit, or a quick release for a biological need. For VR, you'd beed to be really really into porn, to spend all the setup time AND then still be in the mood ...
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- bratwurst3000 2y ago
  yes true. but isnt using addicted people for the own benefit the whole premise of most social media and alike. apple is maybe not into social media but I cant imagine zuckerberg not wetting his pants from joy if he thinks about million more people crippled to his attention gathering devices.

Flop7331 2y ago

Porn can't make the big ticket sales needed to prop up VR. It's hard enough to get a payment processor because of how often charges get disputed and fears about touching the money for illegal and abusive material. You can't be discreet about VR porning because it leaves you oblivious to your surroundings. You gotta plan ahead and really commit to the time and place. Aren't all of them propped up by being tethered to some FAANG? I highly doubt they are interested in hiring the best and brightest to build VR porn devices. I also suspect that the "kick" from porn is a voyeuristic one; i.e. most consumers would rather watch it than be in it.

trustno2 2y ago

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PaulHoule 2y ago

Apple Pro has an advantage of having no controllers to get in the way of holding your joystick. I am waiting for the 2P version which replace your partner’s image with somebody else’s.

dartos 2y ago
Meta quest does the same thing…

bryanrasmussen 2y ago

when porn advanced the internet did it cost 2000 dollars to get entry to the porn? I don't remember that. I think when this advancing happened it was pretty cheap, in some ways cheaper than buying a bunch of magazines. Porn advanced the internet because it was a cheaper delivery mechanism for a cheap commodity, games expanded the internet because it was a technologically innovative platform for high end products.

BatFastard 2y ago
Evercrack, I knew a number of people who bought 3000 dollar computers in the mid nineties to play Everquest.
- conductr 2y ago
  I wasn't a PC gamer but I bought a Dell in late nineties for near $3k. I think that was just the going rates for anything near max on RAM or CPU, even going big on disk space could drastically up the cost back then. I think I ended up adding a upgraded GPU to that PC that cost a good deal extra, and I wasn't even a gamer! I think I just wanted to edit or watch a certain video format/quality/etc and the stock GPU card wasn't able to handle it. I don't remember exactly, but I do remember I used to collect videos of live performances from a handful of my favorite bands back then so think it might have been related to that hobby. As a side note, I had dozens of the 100 pack CD-R stacks full of these burned videos because HDD cost too much and I didn't need them to be available on demand.
pfannkuchen 2y ago
Inflation calculator says Vision Pro price today is $1730 in 1995 dollars. That is in the range of what a pc cost back then, I think? Like middle to high end but not out of the ballpark.
bratwurst3000 2y ago
PCs costs much around year 2000. and porn and email and messenger where the bonus to games. its was like “hey look counter strikes etc .. nice games” “hmm not sure” “ there is also porn” “bought”
- bryanrasmussen 2y ago
  I bought PCs around year 1998, and I don't remember porn being in the selling point, furthermore everyone I knew in 2000 had PCs because they had to use office. PCs had already infiltrated the market at the point the internet became a going concern. In other words the internet was relatively cheap for people.

kvmet 2y ago

I think porn prefers open tooling so that it is less likely to be banned. Going inside Apple's walled garden is probably more risky in that regard and also there's only a small consumer base. There are plenty of VR apps in this category available for PC-connected headsets. You can find tons of them on Steam or Patreon.

andruby 2y ago
Small consumer base for porn or for the current $3000 apple headset? The immersion is really good. Apple would never allow it in their ecosystem, but OnlyFans + immersive VR could sell very well.
- bratwurst3000 2y ago
  yeah i think apples no porn policy is ruining their vr headset and the future of vr ;). not that i am into vr porn. i only think the market for that should be huge

anvuong 2y ago

TBH I feel like if I am into VR porn then I am definitely addicted and I'd need help from professional. Usually porn is like a quick dopamine hit, or a quick release for a biological need. For VR, you'd beed to be really really into porn, to spend all the setup time AND then still be in the mood ...

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bratwurst3000 2y ago
yes true. but isnt using addicted people for the own benefit the whole premise of most social media and alike. apple is maybe not into social media but I cant imagine zuckerberg not wetting his pants from joy if he thinks about million more people crippled to his attention gathering devices.