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Odd since BMWs are not known for reliabilty

by DoesntMatter22 2y ago

okdood64 2y ago
This is an "old" notion. The powertrain in the last 10 years roughly are damn reliable. (The electronics is arguable.)
- DoesntMatter22 2y ago
  The entirety of reliability involves the whole car as you alluded to.
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nicce 2y ago
It does not take much. In Germany, TÜV (Mandatory inspections in Germany), placed Tesla Model 3 for 111th in reliability, just behind Dacia Logan which was in the second last place, when the first mandatory inspections in 2023 started. You can find many sources about this, here one example: https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-in-german-tuv-reliability-report/ https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-...
jayd16 2y ago
Especially the electronics.
jen20 2y ago
Perhaps I’m the odd one out but I haven’t had any issues in 20 years of BMW ownership across two continents. Never had to do anything except routine service and consumables. One 3-series diesel in Europe made it to 220k miles before I sold it, and it’s likely got another 10 years of daily driving in it.
- NightlyDev 2y ago
  You're not the odd one out. BMWs cars generally have less faults that most other brands, but as with all brands, the number of faults varies greatly based on the model.
TacticalCoder 2y ago
> Odd since BMWs are not known for reliability It really depends on the model. When a company produces 2 million cars a year and has a shitload of models in their lineup, some are going to be problematic. For gasoline engine, for example, the B48 engine is highly reliable [1] I'm one of those "oddballs" who'll never ever buy a new car because to me buying a new car is deciding to be a guinea pig. I buy cars that are 3 to 5 years old, once it's known if the model is a reliable one or not. Take, say, a used 4-series "Gran Coupé" with the B48 engine. It's a complete bargain, ultra-reliable and one heck of a sweet ride. I drive higher-end stuff but we picked that for my wife two years ago and it's really a good car. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48

Odd since BMWs are not known for reliabilty

okdood64 2y ago

This is an "old" notion. The powertrain in the last 10 years roughly are damn reliable. (The electronics is arguable.)

DoesntMatter22 2y ago
The entirety of reliability involves the whole car as you alluded to.

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nicce 2y ago

It does not take much. In Germany, TÜV (Mandatory inspections in Germany), placed Tesla Model 3 for 111th in reliability, just behind Dacia Logan which was in the second last place, when the first mandatory inspections in 2023 started. You can find many sources about this, here one example: https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-in-german-tuv-reliability-report/ https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-...

jayd16 2y ago

Especially the electronics.

jen20 2y ago

Perhaps I’m the odd one out but I haven’t had any issues in 20 years of BMW ownership across two continents. Never had to do anything except routine service and consumables. One 3-series diesel in Europe made it to 220k miles before I sold it, and it’s likely got another 10 years of daily driving in it.

NightlyDev 2y ago
You're not the odd one out. BMWs cars generally have less faults that most other brands, but as with all brands, the number of faults varies greatly based on the model.

TacticalCoder 2y ago

> Odd since BMWs are not known for reliability It really depends on the model. When a company produces 2 million cars a year and has a shitload of models in their lineup, some are going to be problematic. For gasoline engine, for example, the B48 engine is highly reliable [1] I'm one of those "oddballs" who'll never ever buy a new car because to me buying a new car is deciding to be a guinea pig. I buy cars that are 3 to 5 years old, once it's known if the model is a reliable one or not. Take, say, a used 4-series "Gran Coupé" with the B48 engine. It's a complete bargain, ultra-reliable and one heck of a sweet ride. I drive higher-end stuff but we picked that for my wife two years ago and it's really a good car. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48