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But the Ray-bans aren't AR or VR. They're just glasses with a camera, microphone, and speakers plus connectivity for streaming the camera's feed. How is that AR

But the Ray-bans aren't AR or VR. They're just glasses with a camera, microphone, and speakers plus connectivity for streaming the camera's feed. How is that AR or VR in any way?

paxys 2y ago
If I'm going about my day and a voice in my ear gives me context about my surroundings, identifies people and objects, answers questions, tells me which direction I need to walk in, records and live streams my POV and more, that's AR. The experience doesn't always have to be visual.
- teddyh 2y ago
  That’s a phone. You are describing a smartphone. Does this make all phones “AR” devices?
  - loeg 2y ago
    This you? https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/36/71/61/1000_F_136716109_nKVAugc5Nzjpj9iuCpMzeNctkCZuby9F.jpg https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/36/71/61/1000_F_136716109_nK... Glasses are a fundamentally different UX than a smartphone.
    - teddyh 2y ago
      Put your phone in a shirt pocket, its camera visible. Add headphones (wired or bluetooth). Done. The question remains: Does an audio-only interface qualify as “AR”?
      - gmueckl 2y ago
        Yes! The true magic of AR is a computer understanding the user's real wolrd context. The UX modality is secondary.
  - Izkata 2y ago
    There was an app over a decade ago called Layar that used the camera, screen, and GPS for AR.
    - hughesjj 2y ago
      Also for VR there's, of course, https://arvr.google.com/cardboard/ https://arvr.google.com/cardboard/ Imo whether you overlay an image on your eyes or if they just do binocular camera passthrough, they could both count for VR. It's just most phones can't do binocular passthrough due to the lack of appropriately spaced cameras. This is relevant for stuff like the f35 where you can look "through" the jet
- theshackleford 2y ago
  “That’s AR” That’s funny, because when I look up AR, that’s not at all what I see and it’s certainly not what anybody I know expects from AR. “a technology that superimposes a computer-generated image on a user's view of the real world, thus providing a composite view.”
daniel_reetz 2y ago
They're not AR or VR, they're an open air experiment to determine what the display-bearing devices will be.

But the Ray-bans aren't AR or VR. They're just glasses with a camera, microphone, and speakers plus connectivity for streaming the camera's feed. How is that AR or VR in any way?

paxys 2y ago

If I'm going about my day and a voice in my ear gives me context about my surroundings, identifies people and objects, answers questions, tells me which direction I need to walk in, records and live streams my POV and more, that's AR. The experience doesn't always have to be visual.

teddyh 2y ago
That’s a phone. You are describing a smartphone. Does this make all phones “AR” devices?
- loeg 2y ago
  This you? https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/36/71/61/1000_F_136716109_nKVAugc5Nzjpj9iuCpMzeNctkCZuby9F.jpg https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/01/36/71/61/1000_F_136716109_nK... Glasses are a fundamentally different UX than a smartphone.
  - teddyh 2y ago
    Put your phone in a shirt pocket, its camera visible. Add headphones (wired or bluetooth). Done. The question remains: Does an audio-only interface qualify as “AR”?
    - gmueckl 2y ago
      Yes! The true magic of AR is a computer understanding the user's real wolrd context. The UX modality is secondary.
- Izkata 2y ago
  There was an app over a decade ago called Layar that used the camera, screen, and GPS for AR.
  - hughesjj 2y ago
    Also for VR there's, of course, https://arvr.google.com/cardboard/ https://arvr.google.com/cardboard/ Imo whether you overlay an image on your eyes or if they just do binocular camera passthrough, they could both count for VR. It's just most phones can't do binocular passthrough due to the lack of appropriately spaced cameras. This is relevant for stuff like the f35 where you can look "through" the jet
theshackleford 2y ago
“That’s AR” That’s funny, because when I look up AR, that’s not at all what I see and it’s certainly not what anybody I know expects from AR. “a technology that superimposes a computer-generated image on a user's view of the real world, thus providing a composite view.”

daniel_reetz 2y ago

They're not AR or VR, they're an open air experiment to determine what the display-bearing devices will be.