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If it's the Lumix S5 I have the same camera and as far as I know you are getting genuinely more resolution but it relies on there being absolutely no movement i

If it's the Lumix S5 I have the same camera and as far as I know you are getting genuinely more resolution but it relies on there being absolutely no movement in the scene. So, great for buildings and architecture, terrible in forests or city streets.

tormeh 2y ago
So, they just literally determine every fourth pixel in the final image from the fourth image? That's a solution to a niche problem. I hope they didn't sell that as general-purpose...
- sbarre 2y ago
  Nah the manual and specs are pretty clear on the limitations of the mode and how it works.. I personally find it pretty useless, but it's easy to just ignore it entirely since it's a dedicated mode on the dial.
sbarre 2y ago
It's a GH6, so probably the same system roughly... And yes that's what I said, sorry if I wasn't clear. It does get more "pixels" resolution, the image file is 100MP, but it's certainly not 4X the image resolution in terms of image quality. Not that I was expecting that, but it's not even a middle ground that I consider usable, at least not good enough to use over a normal 25MP picture. I've done a bunch of landscape shots (with a very solid tripod, camera in silent mode, shutter release delay, no wind, etc) and generally I've found the results mixed-to-bad.. Like I said, it seems like the algorithm has a hard time stitching the images together often so if you zoom into the details (and really if you're using this mode, it's ostensibly because you want more detail), things get fuzzy or muddy in most of the pictures I've taken. To be fair I took maybe 20-30 test shots in the first 6 months I owned that camera, and I haven't gone back to the mode since.. Maybe some of it is user error, but I really did try to make it work because it seemed like a cool feature.
- nicoburns 2y ago
  Do you have a remote shutter trigger? I think pressing the shutter button can count as too much movement for these systems.
  - The_Colonel 2y ago
    What I struggle with - isn't even let's say walking around, small air movements etc. producing enough tremor to influence this? We're talking about moving the sensor/scene by one half of a pixel size which is a miniscule amount (2 micrometers or so).
    - thih9 2y ago
      Yes, hence tripod and photographing buildings, as mentioned in an ancestor comment[1]. On a windy day (enough to shake the tripod) or on shaky ground (cars, trams) I guess this might still not be enough. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41333736 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41333736
  - sbarre 2y ago
    I do not but as I mentioned in my previous post the camera supports a shutter delay (to account for the movement of pressing the button), which I used for this mode. I feel like I really did everything I could to create the ideal conditions for this mode to produce good results, and it simply didn't. That said, all this talk has made me want to go try again.. :-)
- Wistar 2y ago
  My S5IIx allegedly can do a pixel-shifted 96MP high resolution shot up to 1 second _hand-held._ I haven’t tried it and probably never will.
  - sbarre 2y ago
    Hah yes the GH6 also claims that the IBIS (in-body image stabilization) can allow you to use the pixel-shift mode handheld but given the mixed results I've had on a tripod, I also have not tried this.

tormeh 2y ago

So, they just literally determine every fourth pixel in the final image from the fourth image? That's a solution to a niche problem. I hope they didn't sell that as general-purpose...

sbarre 2y ago
Nah the manual and specs are pretty clear on the limitations of the mode and how it works.. I personally find it pretty useless, but it's easy to just ignore it entirely since it's a dedicated mode on the dial.

sbarre 2y ago

It's a GH6, so probably the same system roughly... And yes that's what I said, sorry if I wasn't clear. It does get more "pixels" resolution, the image file is 100MP, but it's certainly not 4X the image resolution in terms of image quality. Not that I was expecting that, but it's not even a middle ground that I consider usable, at least not good enough to use over a normal 25MP picture. I've done a bunch of landscape shots (with a very solid tripod, camera in silent mode, shutter release delay, no wind, etc) and generally I've found the results mixed-to-bad.. Like I said, it seems like the algorithm has a hard time stitching the images together often so if you zoom into the details (and really if you're using this mode, it's ostensibly because you want more detail), things get fuzzy or muddy in most of the pictures I've taken. To be fair I took maybe 20-30 test shots in the first 6 months I owned that camera, and I haven't gone back to the mode since.. Maybe some of it is user error, but I really did try to make it work because it seemed like a cool feature.

nicoburns 2y ago
Do you have a remote shutter trigger? I think pressing the shutter button can count as too much movement for these systems.
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  What I struggle with - isn't even let's say walking around, small air movements etc. producing enough tremor to influence this? We're talking about moving the sensor/scene by one half of a pixel size which is a miniscule amount (2 micrometers or so).
  - thih9 2y ago
    Yes, hence tripod and photographing buildings, as mentioned in an ancestor comment[1]. On a windy day (enough to shake the tripod) or on shaky ground (cars, trams) I guess this might still not be enough. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41333736 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41333736
- sbarre 2y ago
  I do not but as I mentioned in my previous post the camera supports a shutter delay (to account for the movement of pressing the button), which I used for this mode. I feel like I really did everything I could to create the ideal conditions for this mode to produce good results, and it simply didn't. That said, all this talk has made me want to go try again.. :-)
Wistar 2y ago
My S5IIx allegedly can do a pixel-shifted 96MP high resolution shot up to 1 second _hand-held._ I haven’t tried it and probably never will.
- sbarre 2y ago
  Hah yes the GH6 also claims that the IBIS (in-body image stabilization) can allow you to use the pixel-shift mode handheld but given the mixed results I've had on a tripod, I also have not tried this.