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Especially in the networking section, there's tons of functionality you can only access via the good old Control Panel applets. In the Settings app there's onl

Especially in the networking section, there's tons of functionality you can only access via the good old Control Panel applets. In the Settings app there's only a "DHCP or no DHCP" option. No choice about DNS server info or DNS suffixes, no way to edit adapter settings (jumbo frames etc) and so on. Another example, regional settings, the Settings app only allows for some bare-bones customization. Want to add additional clocks? Can't do that in Settings app. So I truly hope this means they'll work on bringing that functionality over, rather than just removing the applets and let you sit there with the minimally functional Settings app.

xtracto 2y ago
Aaah the windows network applet. I still remember fiddling with ipx/spx settings in that interface. It's been several decades! Good memories.
saratogacx 2y ago
What is more likely is that the UI for those setting go away and you'll be told that to do advanced things you need to use the netsh tool.
- bonoboTP 2y ago
  Which is not that bad honestly. As a power user, the command line and scripting should be easy to learn. That's how it works in Linux anyway.
  - JohnFen 2y ago
    > That's how it works in Linux anyway. But it's not necessary even in Linux. Many (most?) DEs offer control panels that let you do pretty much everything a normal power user will want to do.
vel0city 2y ago
> No choice about DNS server info or DNS suffixes, no way to edit adapter settings (jumbo frames etc) and so on. Hasn't been true for a while. You can get to all of that from the Settings app these days.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  Well kinda. Sure you don't go via the applet in Win11 (and I admit I forgot about that since I run Win10 still on my main machines), but all it does is launch the good old "Properties" dialog. So it's not integrated into the Settings app. And thus could potentially go away once they deprecate the rest of the control panel, if the main point of that is to do everything through Settings app. If not, why remove the control panel?
  - vel0city 2y ago
    > No choice about DNS server info or DNS suffixes This can be entirely configured in the settings app. It doesn't launch the older properties. So for that, not kinda the answer is just it can. Now, jumbo frames isn't able to be set like that yet, I'll acknowledge. > And thus could potentially go away once they deprecate the rest of the control panel, if the main point of that is to do everything through Settings app. If not, why remove the control panel? Microsoft hasn't even said they're removing the Control Panel yet. This is an Ars Technica article blowing up a single phrase from a Microsoft support article that says: > Tip: while the Control Panel still exists for compatibility reasons and to provide access to some settings that have not yet migrated, you're encouraged to use the Settings app, whenever possible. > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/system-configuration-tools-in-windows-f8a49657-b038-43b8-82d3-28bea0c5666b https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/system-configura... So all Microsoft is saying, get used to navigating to your network adapter settings in Windows instead of relying on going through Control Panel, because sometime it might not be there. Not necessarily tomorrow, not next quarter, probably not next year, but sometime you're going to have to figure out the Settings app. Microsoft isn't saying they're going to pull the Control Panel without offering all the functionality through Settings. But expect for more and more of the Control Panel to disappear over time. Also, the Control Panel disappearing doesn't mean every dialog and applet that used to be linked through there would necessarily disappear. You're reading a lot into that small sentence if your takeaway is they'll be removing Jumbo Frame support.
    - magicalhippo 2y ago
      > This can be entirely configured in the settings app. How? I can change DNS server, but not suffix info. > But expect for more and more of the Control Panel to disappear over time. Right, but they're also not saying explicitly that they'll move all the settings that exist in the old Control Panel. And given their history, it's not a given that they'll do just that. > You're reading a lot into that small sentence if your takeaway is they'll be removing Jumbo Frame support. It wouldn't be the first time they removed access to some essential settings before back-pedaling. That said, sure, they'll probably add access to that stuff. Of course, it's entirely possible someone else is at the helm of this area of Windows now, one that actually cares about power users. In which case my worries are probably unfounded.

xtracto 2y ago

Aaah the windows network applet. I still remember fiddling with ipx/spx settings in that interface. It's been several decades! Good memories.

saratogacx 2y ago

What is more likely is that the UI for those setting go away and you'll be told that to do advanced things you need to use the netsh tool.

bonoboTP 2y ago
Which is not that bad honestly. As a power user, the command line and scripting should be easy to learn. That's how it works in Linux anyway.
- JohnFen 2y ago
  > That's how it works in Linux anyway. But it's not necessary even in Linux. Many (most?) DEs offer control panels that let you do pretty much everything a normal power user will want to do.

vel0city 2y ago

> No choice about DNS server info or DNS suffixes, no way to edit adapter settings (jumbo frames etc) and so on. Hasn't been true for a while. You can get to all of that from the Settings app these days.

magicalhippo 2y ago
Well kinda. Sure you don't go via the applet in Win11 (and I admit I forgot about that since I run Win10 still on my main machines), but all it does is launch the good old "Properties" dialog. So it's not integrated into the Settings app. And thus could potentially go away once they deprecate the rest of the control panel, if the main point of that is to do everything through Settings app. If not, why remove the control panel?
- vel0city 2y ago
  > No choice about DNS server info or DNS suffixes This can be entirely configured in the settings app. It doesn't launch the older properties. So for that, not kinda the answer is just it can. Now, jumbo frames isn't able to be set like that yet, I'll acknowledge. > And thus could potentially go away once they deprecate the rest of the control panel, if the main point of that is to do everything through Settings app. If not, why remove the control panel? Microsoft hasn't even said they're removing the Control Panel yet. This is an Ars Technica article blowing up a single phrase from a Microsoft support article that says: > Tip: while the Control Panel still exists for compatibility reasons and to provide access to some settings that have not yet migrated, you're encouraged to use the Settings app, whenever possible. > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/system-configuration-tools-in-windows-f8a49657-b038-43b8-82d3-28bea0c5666b https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/system-configura... So all Microsoft is saying, get used to navigating to your network adapter settings in Windows instead of relying on going through Control Panel, because sometime it might not be there. Not necessarily tomorrow, not next quarter, probably not next year, but sometime you're going to have to figure out the Settings app. Microsoft isn't saying they're going to pull the Control Panel without offering all the functionality through Settings. But expect for more and more of the Control Panel to disappear over time. Also, the Control Panel disappearing doesn't mean every dialog and applet that used to be linked through there would necessarily disappear. You're reading a lot into that small sentence if your takeaway is they'll be removing Jumbo Frame support.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    > This can be entirely configured in the settings app. How? I can change DNS server, but not suffix info. > But expect for more and more of the Control Panel to disappear over time. Right, but they're also not saying explicitly that they'll move all the settings that exist in the old Control Panel. And given their history, it's not a given that they'll do just that. > You're reading a lot into that small sentence if your takeaway is they'll be removing Jumbo Frame support. It wouldn't be the first time they removed access to some essential settings before back-pedaling. That said, sure, they'll probably add access to that stuff. Of course, it's entirely possible someone else is at the helm of this area of Windows now, one that actually cares about power users. In which case my worries are probably unfounded.