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https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine/blob/efb4a196ccc8566d91fa67b53e48cd21410f9664/Thirdparty/dumb/LICENSE https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine/blob/efb

https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine/blob/efb4a196ccc8566d91fa67b53e48cd21410f9664/Thirdparty/dumb/LICENSE https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine/blob/efb4a196ccc856... Look, I get it: they named their library "dumb" so they felt they just have to be cutesy with the license file, but please don't. If you hate licenses that much, https://spdx.org/licenses/WTFPL.html https://spdx.org/licenses/WTFPL.html is probably for you (the actual project seems to be BSD-3)

andrewmcwatters 2y ago
Maybe it’s just me, but if you understand the history of audio libraries, it just sounds like a titular homage to LAME.
georgyo 2y ago
You're complaining about a 3rd party library license that the project cannot change...
- mdaniel 2y ago
  I know posting a top-level comment seems indistinguishable from wagging my finger at the project, but it was just a license rant. I hoped that by including the third-party link it would make it more obvious what was being commented upon but I guess not
- yodon 2y ago
  No one should use packages with licensing of this sort. The way the project changes the license is by changing which library they use.
  - lagniappe 2y ago
    People should do what makes them happy
    - yodon 2y ago
      Licenses are legal documents. They aren't supposed to make people happy. If they do, you're probably doing it wrong.
thfuran 2y ago
Presuming that there are actually jurisdictions in which those typical clauses about disclaiming any implied warranty and so on are important (and I wouldn't want to do otherwise), that minimal license seems like a terrible idea. Not restricting use is all well and good, but you don't want to somehow end up legally on the hook for someone using your code to shoot themselves in the foot, however much it seems like the fundamental problem there would be with the jurisprudence.
ndiddy 2y ago
DUMB is essentially BSD, clause 8 says that clauses 4, 5, and 6 are null and void.
thih9 2y ago
For people who want more cutesy licenses, find some here: https://github.com/benlk/misc-licenses?tab=readme-ov-file#other-neat-licenses https://github.com/benlk/misc-licenses?tab=readme-ov-file#ot...
justin66 2y ago
Use the jslint license. It has all the legal force of the 3-clause BSD license, but it also offends an awful lot of humorless people in a way that is funny to watch.

andrewmcwatters 2y ago

Maybe it’s just me, but if you understand the history of audio libraries, it just sounds like a titular homage to LAME.

georgyo 2y ago

You're complaining about a 3rd party library license that the project cannot change...

mdaniel 2y ago
I know posting a top-level comment seems indistinguishable from wagging my finger at the project, but it was just a license rant. I hoped that by including the third-party link it would make it more obvious what was being commented upon but I guess not
yodon 2y ago
No one should use packages with licensing of this sort. The way the project changes the license is by changing which library they use.
- lagniappe 2y ago
  People should do what makes them happy
  - yodon 2y ago
    Licenses are legal documents. They aren't supposed to make people happy. If they do, you're probably doing it wrong.

thfuran 2y ago

Presuming that there are actually jurisdictions in which those typical clauses about disclaiming any implied warranty and so on are important (and I wouldn't want to do otherwise), that minimal license seems like a terrible idea. Not restricting use is all well and good, but you don't want to somehow end up legally on the hook for someone using your code to shoot themselves in the foot, however much it seems like the fundamental problem there would be with the jurisprudence.

ndiddy 2y ago

DUMB is essentially BSD, clause 8 says that clauses 4, 5, and 6 are null and void.

thih9 2y ago

For people who want more cutesy licenses, find some here: https://github.com/benlk/misc-licenses?tab=readme-ov-file#other-neat-licenses https://github.com/benlk/misc-licenses?tab=readme-ov-file#ot...

justin66 2y ago

Use the jslint license. It has all the legal force of the 3-clause BSD license, but it also offends an awful lot of humorless people in a way that is funny to watch.