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I don't get the need for this. What is the use for a 'logo' that can be copy-pasted into text? If you write text you can just use the name - fediverse. Its lik

by tokai 2y ago

I don't get the need for this. What is the use for a 'logo' that can be copy-pasted into text? If you write text you can just use the name - fediverse. Its like they get the worst of both worlds; a bad logo that is not even theirs but is an unicode character. And a shitty way of writing their name that makes it incomprehensible to outsiders.

glenstein 2y ago
Setting aside the logo itself, where I'm not sure how I feel about it yet or whether there's a need for it, you're losing me with this point about Unicode. The rationale for having symbols I feel is so self-evident it shouldn't need any explanation. You know the save icon, you know the power button, you know the Twitter, well, X logo. You probably know the 'share' icon. I don't know if anyone's going to buy that it's bad to have a simple universal icon closely associated with a specific thing that we want widely known. And Unicode has an advantage over images of being, in a sense, more universal and more accessible.
- tokai 2y ago
  Regardless of the unicode issue (some trademark lawyers are going to make a lot of money from this one day), its not more accessible at all. It hides any information behind prior knowledge about the fedi-use of the symbol. It's even very hard to look it up, if you see in print or on a device you are not controlling so you can't copy-paste the symbol for lookup.
- tarball 2y ago
  You know all those icons because someone, some industry or some culture imposed it to you. Nothing is self-evident. We are constantly learning new symbols to be able to share graphic languages with other persons or interfaces.
Retr0id 2y ago
You don't even need to write out fediverse, "fedi" is broadly recognized as an abbreviation.
- thiht 2y ago
  What? Not at all.
  - Retr0id 2y ago
    Let me rephrase, it's about as broadly understood as the term "fediverse" itself, when used in-context.

by tokai 2y ago

glenstein 2y ago

Setting aside the logo itself, where I'm not sure how I feel about it yet or whether there's a need for it, you're losing me with this point about Unicode. The rationale for having symbols I feel is so self-evident it shouldn't need any explanation. You know the save icon, you know the power button, you know the Twitter, well, X logo. You probably know the 'share' icon. I don't know if anyone's going to buy that it's bad to have a simple universal icon closely associated with a specific thing that we want widely known. And Unicode has an advantage over images of being, in a sense, more universal and more accessible.

tokai 2y ago
Regardless of the unicode issue (some trademark lawyers are going to make a lot of money from this one day), its not more accessible at all. It hides any information behind prior knowledge about the fedi-use of the symbol. It's even very hard to look it up, if you see in print or on a device you are not controlling so you can't copy-paste the symbol for lookup.
tarball 2y ago
You know all those icons because someone, some industry or some culture imposed it to you. Nothing is self-evident. We are constantly learning new symbols to be able to share graphic languages with other persons or interfaces.

Retr0id 2y ago

You don't even need to write out fediverse, "fedi" is broadly recognized as an abbreviation.

thiht 2y ago
What? Not at all.
- Retr0id 2y ago
  Let me rephrase, it's about as broadly understood as the term "fediverse" itself, when used in-context.