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I wrote up a thing on this: HNer @externedguy "..built interactive map of active & decommissioned nuclear stations/reactors" https://news.ycombinator.com/item
by samstave 2y ago
I wrote up a thing on this:
HNer @externedguy "..built interactive map of active & decommissioned nuclear stations/reactors"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41189056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41189056
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So I wrote the following in response:
(I correlated the Nuclear reactor locations with DataCenters, undersea cable endpints (which will be near both nukes and datacenters)
As they could be layers - and we track shipments and we can see where AI consumes:
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...if we add the layers of the SubmarinCableMap [0] DataCenterMap [1] - and we begin to track shipments
And
https://i.imgur.com/zO0yz6J.png https://i.imgur.com/zO0yz6J.png -- Left is nuke, top = cables, bottom = datacenters. I went to ImportYeti to look into the NVIDIA shipments: https://i.imgur.com/k9018EC.png https://i.imgur.com/k9018EC.png
And you look at the suppliers that are coming from Taiwan, such as the water-coolers and power cables to sus out where they may be shipping to, https://i.imgur.com/B5iWFQ1.png https://i.imgur.com/B5iWFQ1.png -- but instead, it would be better to find shipping lables for datacenters that are receiving containers from Taiwain, and the same suppliers as NVIDIA for things such as power cables. While the free data is out of date on ImportYeti - it gives a good supply line idea for NVIDIA... with the goal to find out which datacenters that are getting such shipments, you can begin to measure the footprint of AI as it grows, and which nuke plants they are likely powered from.
Then, looking into whatever reporting one may access for the consumption/util of the nuke's capacity in various regions, we can estimate the power footprint of growing Global Compute.
DataCenterNews and all sorts of datasets are available - and now the ability to create this crawler/tracker is likely full implementable
https://i.imgur.com/gsM75dz.png https://i.imgur.com/gsM75dz.png https://i.imgur.com/a7nGGKh.png https://i.imgur.com/a7nGGKh.png
[0] https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
[1] https://www.datacentermap.com/ https://www.datacentermap.com/
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And a while back I posted:
In the increasingly interconnected global economy, the reliance on Cloud Services raises questions about the national security implications of data centers. As these critical economic infrastructure sites, often strategically located underground, underwater, or in remote-cold locales, play a pivotal role, considerations arise regarding the role of military forces in safeguarding their security. While physical security measures and location obscurity provide some protection, the integration of AI into various aspects of daily life and the pervasive influence of cloud-based technologies on devices, as evident in CES GPT-enabled products, further accentuates the importance of these infrastructure sites.
Notably, instances such as the seizure of a college thesis mapping communication lines in the U.S. underscore the sensitivity of disclosing key communications infrastructure.
Companies like AWS, running data centers for the Department of Defense (DoD) and Intelligence Community (IC), demonstrate close collaboration between private entities and defense agencies. The question remains: are major cloud service providers actively involved in a national security strategy to protect the private internet infrastructure that underpins the global economy, or does the responsibility solely rest with individual companies?
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