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Apple to update EU browser options, make more apps deletable
- jsheard 2y agoLetting you delete the App Store is funny. There must be a system-level escape hatch which lets you get it back, I can't imagine they would make you do a factory reset.
- philistine 2y agoThe two apps Apple will not let you delete are Phone and Settings. So I bet the section in Settings about which store is your default includes the App Store, so if you select it it makes it reappear. I’m sure that if you delete all the third-party stores then the App Store reappears as well.
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- cut3 2y agoI wish I could delete the phone app. The real people I know never call, calling is for spammers and scammers.
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- koyote 2y agoWhy not get a data-only SIM card?
- cut3 2y agoI didnt realize this was an option, Ill look into it thanks :)
- lurking_swe 2y agoclearly spoken by someone that’s never had a loved one in the hospital, a furniture delivery, or a follow up from their doctors office… if you have a significant other, do you never call them? you never call your parents? You never need to call to schedule appointments? if there is an emergency, you want to re-download the phone from the App Store again before calling 911. brilliant. is your comment intended to be sarcasm? i hope so. so out of touch.
- zamadatix 2y agoDepending where one lives not using traditional telephony calls for these things can be the norm instead of out of touch. I think the sole exception is probably emergency services like 911, which is an important thing many people forget counts as a phone call through the app since it's not a regular task (for most of us thankfully at least).
- lurking_swe 2y agoas far as i’m concerned that’s a weird edge case. Most of society uses a phone at least once a month for something, unless they’re young and have no responsibilities yet. You can enable “silence unknown calls”, let everything go to voicemail, and then screen your voicemails once a day, once a week, whatever your preference is. Problem solved?
- zamadatix 2y agoMore people in e.g. China alone rely on data based communication apps for these things than there are people who use traditional calls in all of Europe and America combined for a given month. Your personal experience is not the cultural norm for all humanity, nor is it the example of how someone with responsibilities must be like.
- lurking_swe 2y agois a data based app used for emergency service calls as well? Just curious (as someone that’s never been to asia - yet)
- Mengkudulangsat 2y agoShouldn't EVERY app be deletable by law, everywhere? I don't care if it breaks the phone, it's my right damnit.
- threatofrain 2y agoI support pro-level access, but I hope there's a very, very meaningful boundary between amateur and pro users so that my parents don't brick their device. There's something quite nice about the Chromebook that satisfies both casual family members and programmers.
- igornadj 2y agoCarry a computer around then. Most people want the assurance of knowing their phone works like a phone in an emergency.
- OptionOfT 2y agoI think this should come to the USA too. We don't have any browser choice. What choice do you have if you want and adblocking and syncing with a Windows computer? Firefox has Firefox Focus, without sync, but Firefox itself has no built-in adblocker. Makes you wonder whether that's because of their contract with Google?
- hypeatei 2y agoIt's really annoying when tech companies section off user freedom and privacy protections to specific regions. Maybe if there was a ton of countries that had contradictory laws, but these app store decisions for sure could be implemented in the US, but alas... they want to squeeze as much out of us as possible.
- Bilal_io 2y agoThis reminds me of Amazon, they allow users to cash out their gift card balance in a few states, but not in most. They have the technical implementation but still limit their users.
- lern_too_spel 2y agoFirefox lets you use uBlock Origin on Android. After the EU's recent moves, that will come to iOS eventually.
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- JohnTHaller 2y agoAll the browsers on iOS are running the Safari rendering engine underneath so Firefox et al can't do their own extensions like ad blockers. Apple restricts apps so you have to only use their engine. The new EU regulations apparently require them to allow third party engines but I'm not sure if that will happen anytime soon.
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- zamadatix 2y agoHas there been any movement on "real" browser options (i.e. not just calling the built-in webkit in the backend)? I know there were a boatload of requirements Apple gave to do it and I'm out of the loop after that (was it consider a reasonable set, has anyone been trying to apply anyways, etc).
- barkerja 2y agoIn the EU, different engines are allowed. If that's what you mean. There is an entitlement specifically for that, see: https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engines/ https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...
- lutoma 2y agoMozilla seems to be working on porting Gecko to iOS (I think they're trying to build a new frontend for the stack used in Android Firefox): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872
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- ChrisArchitect 2y agoRelated: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41322297 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41322297
- akmarinov 2y agoCan’t wait for the time when one of the next OSs rolls around and there are a ton of bugs on the EU implementation, as Apple famously doesn’t really test their stuff outside California
- igornadj 2y agoI'd love for this to trickle into macOS. Not being able to delete Apple Music or News is crazy. I will never use these, and them auto-launching all the time is very shitty.
- DavideNL 2y agohttps://github.com/tombonez/noTunes https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes
- attendant3446 2y ago> Users will also be able to delete certain Apple-made apps can we have the same for Android? for chrome, youtube, etc.