And on the opposite side, Clojure was made with a full focus on getting professional developers with lots of experience to be able to use Lisp in places they no

And on the opposite side, Clojure was made with a full focus on getting professional developers with lots of experience to be able to use Lisp in places they normally couldn't (initially Java shops), with no compromises to make it easier for beginner programmers. And that's OK, not every language needs to cater to everyone :)