> for example in music there is clearly no art without a great deal of craftsmenship and skill. You're missing out on a whole world of experimental and ambient

> for example in music there is clearly no art without a great deal of craftsmenship and skill. You're missing out on a whole world of experimental and ambient music, which may or may not demonstrate great skill and technique (although much of it does). The most obvious and extreme example of such art is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 Art and craftsmanship definitely have overlap, but I think a well accepted Anglosphere understanding of art is that it is expressive. High levels of skill and technical knowledge will naturally lend to an artist being able to be more expressive through nuance and variety. But they're neither separate nor identical concepts. In any act of creation, both craftsmanship and artistry can be evaluated separately. I think very high levels of craftsmanship naturally lend toward raising the level of artistry, and vice-versa, but they're describing different features of the creation. Craftsmanship is largely about technical quality, choices of material/medium, soundness, precision, etc. Whereas artistry will describe how it feels to perceive the creation.