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OK, I guess you have ablesplained everything now, thanks for teaching me the error of my ways! Writing a serious reply doesn't feel like a good use of my time.

by lynx23 2y ago

OK, I guess you have ablesplained everything now, thanks for teaching me the error of my ways! Writing a serious reply doesn't feel like a good use of my time. You have already demonstrated that you have no regard for the lived experience of minorities and prefer your pseudoanalytical explanations over everything a person from such an in-group could tell you. The truth is, the story is much more complicated. But trying to explain that to you feels draining and useless, so I just stop here.

cauch 2y ago
Are you serious? YOU are the one explaining what other have in their mind. I just tell you "maybe it's not so simple". And you get all virtue signaling, explaining that everyone who dares not agreeing with you can only be a bad guy because you have a disabled get-out-of-jail-for-free card. And that is not a "pseudoanalitical" explanation, that's sooo simple, if you don't get it, it's your problem. That's very easy: I don't call "artificial intelligence" an algorithm that is just a bunch of if-conditions, just because it's misleading. Others use "different abled" FOR THE SAME REASON. The fact that it does not affect you is irrelevant, you are not the reason they prefer to use a term they think (correctly or not, who cares) is better suited, and they don't do it to look good. It's very simple.
- lynx23 2y ago
  Oh yeah, I am of course using my disability to win an argument. Its not possible that I might have much deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people, no. I am just a frustrated blind guy trying to win an argument. As said, it is totally useless to continue this discussion with you. You are not willing to see.
  - cauch 2y ago
    So, please, explain to me, then. The first comment is saying that one reason to use that is just because some people think that the other term is misleading and reinforce a representation of the reality that does not correspond well to the reality. You answer by saying it's virtue signaling and that somehow if they use this term and don't also do things for disabled people they are inconsistent. How is that virtue signaling? Is using "Netherlands" instead of "Holland" virtue signalling by pretending they care about dutch people? If they say "Netherlands" but they also don't actively participate to dutch charities, is it inconsistent? You are talking about deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people. What does it have to do with the fact that some people prefer to use a term that they think correspond better to the reality? If I prefer to say "disabled people" instead of "disobled people" (because I prefer to use a term that I consider better because I consider spelling mistake not ideal), how your deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people is relevant? Well, I guess that if I tell you "I prefer not making spelling mistake", I am ablesplaining to you, and you are not at all using your disability by explaining that I'm a bad person for not saying "disobled" because you are disabled so you know best.
consteval 2y ago
Jesus Christ what kind of Le Redditor (tips fedora) response is this? He's just pointing out that "differently" and "dis" have different connotations. You're not dis - abled. You ARE able to do things. And some things you have to do differently.
- lynx23 2y ago
  Stop belitteling my dsablity. You, as a non-disabled person, have absolutely no idea how much energy I have to invest to exist in your world and compensate for all the barriers that you are putting up (mostly unconsciously) to make it even harder. This is actually one reason why I am against euphemisms like differently abled. It might sound cosy from the perspective of a unexperienced outsider, but its just ignorance in reality. There are so many things I can not do independently, and cant do with external help either because that is not always aviable, that I definitely feel disabled, not differently abled. All of you have been spoiled by leftist ideas have absolutely no idea what are you doing and how patronising you actually are. Its my life, I decide what words are appropriate. If you have been spoiled by language whitewashing, the problem is you, and not me.
  - consteval 2y ago
    Nobody is "belittling" anything, and the only reason you're resorting to that language is because you don't have anything of value to say. If you did, you'd actually say it. But no, let's just cry instead. Look, all I'm saying is that the changing of these words ISN'T baseless and there IS some thought behind it. Yes, you are disabled. But... you're not dis... abled. You ARE able to do things. That's not up for debate, so I'm not sure why you're arguing it. Will you really argue you're useless? No, you won't. > I decide what words are appropriate Absolutely not a soul on Earth is telling you this. Go ahead and drop the victim mentality, it makes you look really bad.

by lynx23 2y ago

cauch 2y ago

Are you serious? YOU are the one explaining what other have in their mind. I just tell you "maybe it's not so simple". And you get all virtue signaling, explaining that everyone who dares not agreeing with you can only be a bad guy because you have a disabled get-out-of-jail-for-free card. And that is not a "pseudoanalitical" explanation, that's sooo simple, if you don't get it, it's your problem. That's very easy: I don't call "artificial intelligence" an algorithm that is just a bunch of if-conditions, just because it's misleading. Others use "different abled" FOR THE SAME REASON. The fact that it does not affect you is irrelevant, you are not the reason they prefer to use a term they think (correctly or not, who cares) is better suited, and they don't do it to look good. It's very simple.

lynx23 2y ago
Oh yeah, I am of course using my disability to win an argument. Its not possible that I might have much deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people, no. I am just a frustrated blind guy trying to win an argument. As said, it is totally useless to continue this discussion with you. You are not willing to see.
- cauch 2y ago
  So, please, explain to me, then. The first comment is saying that one reason to use that is just because some people think that the other term is misleading and reinforce a representation of the reality that does not correspond well to the reality. You answer by saying it's virtue signaling and that somehow if they use this term and don't also do things for disabled people they are inconsistent. How is that virtue signaling? Is using "Netherlands" instead of "Holland" virtue signalling by pretending they care about dutch people? If they say "Netherlands" but they also don't actively participate to dutch charities, is it inconsistent? You are talking about deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people. What does it have to do with the fact that some people prefer to use a term that they think correspond better to the reality? If I prefer to say "disabled people" instead of "disobled people" (because I prefer to use a term that I consider better because I consider spelling mistake not ideal), how your deeper insight into daily communication between disabled and non-disabled people is relevant? Well, I guess that if I tell you "I prefer not making spelling mistake", I am ablesplaining to you, and you are not at all using your disability by explaining that I'm a bad person for not saying "disobled" because you are disabled so you know best.

consteval 2y ago

Jesus Christ what kind of Le Redditor (tips fedora) response is this? He's just pointing out that "differently" and "dis" have different connotations. You're not dis - abled. You ARE able to do things. And some things you have to do differently.

lynx23 2y ago
Stop belitteling my dsablity. You, as a non-disabled person, have absolutely no idea how much energy I have to invest to exist in your world and compensate for all the barriers that you are putting up (mostly unconsciously) to make it even harder. This is actually one reason why I am against euphemisms like differently abled. It might sound cosy from the perspective of a unexperienced outsider, but its just ignorance in reality. There are so many things I can not do independently, and cant do with external help either because that is not always aviable, that I definitely feel disabled, not differently abled. All of you have been spoiled by leftist ideas have absolutely no idea what are you doing and how patronising you actually are. Its my life, I decide what words are appropriate. If you have been spoiled by language whitewashing, the problem is you, and not me.
- consteval 2y ago
  Nobody is "belittling" anything, and the only reason you're resorting to that language is because you don't have anything of value to say. If you did, you'd actually say it. But no, let's just cry instead. Look, all I'm saying is that the changing of these words ISN'T baseless and there IS some thought behind it. Yes, you are disabled. But... you're not dis... abled. You ARE able to do things. That's not up for debate, so I'm not sure why you're arguing it. Will you really argue you're useless? No, you won't. > I decide what words are appropriate Absolutely not a soul on Earth is telling you this. Go ahead and drop the victim mentality, it makes you look really bad.