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Can you repro FrankWilhoit’s full comment? This guy posts insightful, underappreciated stuff .. i cant figure out what you meant by synergy, for example

FrankWilhoit 2y ago
Synergy (or dependency) between Wolfram's narcissism and his accomplishments. If this is a real and general dependency, we have seen it go wrong much oftener than right; this is why we need to know whether it is a real dependency and if so, how it works.
- Bluestein 2y ago
  If I may, I meant the synergy of one mathematical mind such as Wolfram's talking about another.- And, yes, the amount of self-promotion in anything Wolfram related does get in the way somewhat ...
  - FrankWilhoit 2y ago
    I am sorry I mistook you. The next step in understanding Ramanujan would be at the level, not of mathematical intuition, but of intuition full stop. To me, he was first and foremost a creative artist. Had he been a composer I would understand him perfectly. As it is, I do not fully grasp his language but I recognize some things about what he did with it.
    - Bluestein 2y ago
      No problem. By all means, happy to converse.- > The next step in understanding Ramanujan would be at the level, not of mathematical intuition, but of intuition full stop Very interesting proposition. At some point, all arts and sciences (and artists and scientists) "meet" at that intuitive level that binds them all - and, us ...
      - gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Guys.. If I am not responding to certain points in your posts, it might be because I’m still meditating on them :) But maybe you have not seen Feynman’s letter to Wolfram: https://old.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/ghmdxb/richard_feynmans_advice_to_a_young_stephen/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/ghmdxb/richard_fey... Thats an interesting conversation too, as its possible to accuse Feynman of being a narcissist, but it takes effort ;)
        Bluestein 2y ago
        > with as little contact with non-technical people as possible, with one exception, fall madly in love! Sigh
        082349872349872 2y ago
        > with as little contact with non-technical people as possible I enjoyed the anecdote about von Neumann conversing with some colleague's 5-year old child, at which point the colleague idly wondered if JvN might not feel it necessary to employ the very same tolerance and patience and forbearance in their own convos.
        Bluestein 2y ago
        Heard about that one. A classic :)
        gradschoolfail 2y ago
        That JvN, why, he’ll never be a narcissist, not even in God’s eyes (though maybe he was personally afraid of that :)
        082349872349872 2y ago
        The narcissists are the ones who, when St Peter makes the introductions, tactlessly and without regard for potential embarrassment, demand that God explain turbulence?

FrankWilhoit 2y ago

Synergy (or dependency) between Wolfram's narcissism and his accomplishments. If this is a real and general dependency, we have seen it go wrong much oftener than right; this is why we need to know whether it is a real dependency and if so, how it works.

Bluestein 2y ago
If I may, I meant the synergy of one mathematical mind such as Wolfram's talking about another.- And, yes, the amount of self-promotion in anything Wolfram related does get in the way somewhat ...
- FrankWilhoit 2y ago
  I am sorry I mistook you. The next step in understanding Ramanujan would be at the level, not of mathematical intuition, but of intuition full stop. To me, he was first and foremost a creative artist. Had he been a composer I would understand him perfectly. As it is, I do not fully grasp his language but I recognize some things about what he did with it.
  - Bluestein 2y ago
    No problem. By all means, happy to converse.- > The next step in understanding Ramanujan would be at the level, not of mathematical intuition, but of intuition full stop Very interesting proposition. At some point, all arts and sciences (and artists and scientists) "meet" at that intuitive level that binds them all - and, us ...
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Guys.. If I am not responding to certain points in your posts, it might be because I’m still meditating on them :) But maybe you have not seen Feynman’s letter to Wolfram: https://old.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/ghmdxb/richard_feynmans_advice_to_a_young_stephen/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/ghmdxb/richard_fey... Thats an interesting conversation too, as its possible to accuse Feynman of being a narcissist, but it takes effort ;)
      - Bluestein 2y ago
        > with as little contact with non-technical people as possible, with one exception, fall madly in love! Sigh
        082349872349872 2y ago
        > with as little contact with non-technical people as possible I enjoyed the anecdote about von Neumann conversing with some colleague's 5-year old child, at which point the colleague idly wondered if JvN might not feel it necessary to employ the very same tolerance and patience and forbearance in their own convos.
        Bluestein 2y ago
        Heard about that one. A classic :)
        gradschoolfail 2y ago
        That JvN, why, he’ll never be a narcissist, not even in God’s eyes (though maybe he was personally afraid of that :)
        082349872349872 2y ago
        The narcissists are the ones who, when St Peter makes the introductions, tactlessly and without regard for potential embarrassment, demand that God explain turbulence?