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Exhilarating? These are ~10% faster in single/multi than the 13900KS from 23Q1. Power consumption drops largely coming from everyone, including Intel this gener

Exhilarating? These are ~10% faster in single/multi than the 13900KS from 23Q1. Power consumption drops largely coming from everyone, including Intel this generation, using TSMC's latest nodes. Apple does have a pretty decent perf/w showing compared to the others but only if you want it for their walled garden. I'm extremely disappointed in the rate of competition this year, especially given all the hope I had for it. Given how close the leading performers all are, the increase in total high end competition, and having alternatively licensed architectures in that mix we're getting the same types of generational improvements we did when Intel was the lone king. About the only people really floored are the ones rocking the iPad. Who knows, maybe the X3D variants will still leave something interesting in the near term.

LASR 2y ago
It’s just harder to produce significant gains now. A 10% might be the result of all the chip giants giving it their absolute best. I wouldn’t draw conclusions about the level of competition simply based on the spread in performance. Remember that with Olympic runners the spread is 100ths of a second. And yet the competition is fierce. You may not be excited about a 10% improvement. I am not either. But that’s a different matter.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  That doesn't make any sense when one to two races ago participants posted 20-25 percent gains and single core crowning performance is the same between the highest end desktop CPUs and a fanless iPad. Sure, it's not the 90s where the highest end CPU is doubled every 2 years. It's also not the point where 10% is because we've just hit the limit (like the mid 2010s when everyone was saying the same thing and it turned out there was plenty of generational gain achievable). This generation sucks for desktops, it's just how it is and not something we need to make excuses for.
ysleepy 2y ago
I mean, the 9950X has around 2x the single core perf of the 3950X and 2.5x multi core in geekbench 6. This is pretty great my my eyes. Even Apple isn't doing yearly architecture refreshes anymore.

LASR 2y ago

It’s just harder to produce significant gains now. A 10% might be the result of all the chip giants giving it their absolute best. I wouldn’t draw conclusions about the level of competition simply based on the spread in performance. Remember that with Olympic runners the spread is 100ths of a second. And yet the competition is fierce. You may not be excited about a 10% improvement. I am not either. But that’s a different matter.

zamadatix 2y ago
That doesn't make any sense when one to two races ago participants posted 20-25 percent gains and single core crowning performance is the same between the highest end desktop CPUs and a fanless iPad. Sure, it's not the 90s where the highest end CPU is doubled every 2 years. It's also not the point where 10% is because we've just hit the limit (like the mid 2010s when everyone was saying the same thing and it turned out there was plenty of generational gain achievable). This generation sucks for desktops, it's just how it is and not something we need to make excuses for.

ysleepy 2y ago

I mean, the 9950X has around 2x the single core perf of the 3950X and 2.5x multi core in geekbench 6. This is pretty great my my eyes. Even Apple isn't doing yearly architecture refreshes anymore.