5 ms·

This guys posting history is extremely partisan, it really undermines the message

by coolbreezetft24 2y ago

ESTheComposer 2y ago
[dead]
djohnston 2y ago
Do you think the video is a deep fake because you don’t like Republicans?
- tiltowait 2y ago
  The cut makes it sound like she “isn’t familiar” with the Bureau of Labor. I assume she said “with that figure” or something of the sort :) It’s a bad response, but also not surprising, since her job is to be ra-ra-ra. (Which isn’t me excusing her, not by any means.)
  - squigz 2y ago
    Indeed. Given the cut, and not being able to find this interview elsewhere, I don't put much stock in this video.
    - m348e912 2y ago
      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/examining-vp-harris-economic-plan-113034748?fromLive=true https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/examining-vp-harris-ec...
      - squigz 2y ago
        Thanks! Good to know it wasn't cut to misrepresent the quote. I still don't think she meant she's unfamiliar with the Bureau of Labor, rather that specific issue.
- coolbreezetft24 2y ago
  No, I don't think the video is a deep fake. What I think is this guy is clearly a troll whose concerns about job number revisions are clearly disingenuous. I think when you include hyper-partisan framing around your message, it undermines the message then if you had just presented it directly. It's also not Republicans that I don't like, it's the professional concern trolls that I don't care for.
wakawaka28 2y ago
That sir is called an ad hominem. Judge the information, not the messenger.
- avmich 2y ago
  I do generally agree with such approach - information, not messenger. However there's a concept of reputation which doesn't go away in many cases - and this could be one of them.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    So, someone's reputation matters when they post a video of someone else? Can you not just judge the video for yourself and seek more context if you need it?
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 2y ago
      Post history has importance when considering whether someone’s ignorantly sharing partisan propaganda or not. Don’t feed trolls.
      - wakawaka28 2y ago
        I feel like I'm being trolled left and right here. >Post history has importance when considering whether someone’s ignorantly sharing partisan propaganda or not. Yes but it doesn't tell you whether the thing is good information or not! Not everything that is "propaganda" is bad information. Especially in cases of "partisan" issues, you have to look at both sides of it because it often happens that one side denies or misrepresents the other side. I can't believe I have to explain all of this...
    - avmich 2y ago
      Reputation matters when the listener decides what to do with the message. Are those the facts, are enough facts fairly represented. Judging a video could be complicated if you don't know - or can reliably estimate - those things, and if you need more context all the time, it's becoming pretty hard to watch videos. Hence reputation.
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]

This guys posting history is extremely partisan, it really undermines the message

ESTheComposer 2y ago

[dead]

djohnston 2y ago

Do you think the video is a deep fake because you don’t like Republicans?

tiltowait 2y ago
The cut makes it sound like she “isn’t familiar” with the Bureau of Labor. I assume she said “with that figure” or something of the sort :) It’s a bad response, but also not surprising, since her job is to be ra-ra-ra. (Which isn’t me excusing her, not by any means.)
- squigz 2y ago
  Indeed. Given the cut, and not being able to find this interview elsewhere, I don't put much stock in this video.
  - m348e912 2y ago
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/examining-vp-harris-economic-plan-113034748?fromLive=true https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/examining-vp-harris-ec...
    - squigz 2y ago
      Thanks! Good to know it wasn't cut to misrepresent the quote. I still don't think she meant she's unfamiliar with the Bureau of Labor, rather that specific issue.
coolbreezetft24 2y ago
No, I don't think the video is a deep fake. What I think is this guy is clearly a troll whose concerns about job number revisions are clearly disingenuous. I think when you include hyper-partisan framing around your message, it undermines the message then if you had just presented it directly. It's also not Republicans that I don't like, it's the professional concern trolls that I don't care for.

wakawaka28 2y ago

That sir is called an ad hominem. Judge the information, not the messenger.

avmich 2y ago
I do generally agree with such approach - information, not messenger. However there's a concept of reputation which doesn't go away in many cases - and this could be one of them.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  So, someone's reputation matters when they post a video of someone else? Can you not just judge the video for yourself and seek more context if you need it?
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 2y ago
    Post history has importance when considering whether someone’s ignorantly sharing partisan propaganda or not. Don’t feed trolls.
    - wakawaka28 2y ago
      I feel like I'm being trolled left and right here. >Post history has importance when considering whether someone’s ignorantly sharing partisan propaganda or not. Yes but it doesn't tell you whether the thing is good information or not! Not everything that is "propaganda" is bad information. Especially in cases of "partisan" issues, you have to look at both sides of it because it often happens that one side denies or misrepresents the other side. I can't believe I have to explain all of this...
  - avmich 2y ago
    Reputation matters when the listener decides what to do with the message. Are those the facts, are enough facts fairly represented. Judging a video could be complicated if you don't know - or can reliably estimate - those things, and if you need more context all the time, it's becoming pretty hard to watch videos. Hence reputation.

deleted 2y ago

[deleted]