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The maker says the sailing boat was nearly unsinkable (why won't they?) There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt foul play. Given that Waterspo

The maker says the sailing boat was nearly unsinkable (why won't they?) There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt foul play. Given that Waterspouts, even the seemingly innocuous ones, are très powerful, it remains the most likely cause of Bayesian's tragedy. https://news.sky.com/story/sailing-yachts-like-mike-lynchs-are-unsinkable-bodies-ceo-of-boat-manufacturing-firm-says-13200883 https://news.sky.com/story/sailing-yachts-like-mike-lynchs-a... / https://archive.md/JKNJ7 https://archive.md/JKNJ7

jprd 2y ago
I mean, I really have to fight my brain from jumping into conspiracy theories at times. This is ABSOLUTELY one of them. Lot of other nasties running around without repercussions, but Karma/Simulation said nay to these cats. It is crazy hard to just shake off the coincidence at times.
- nequo 2y ago
  Do you think that the conspirators staged the boat trip by actively planning for a waterspout? What is the probability of a conspiracy like that succeeding?
- nexus6 2y ago
  Did you not read the statement of his wife? So explains in detail the storm.
celdon25 2y ago
Except the boat's keel was found to be raised, which is a suspicious red flag here.
- defen 2y ago
  > Except the boat's keel was found to be raised Can you explain what that means? Like...I vaguely know what a keel is, but what does it mean for it to be raised? Who raises it, and how, or what could have caused it to be raised? What keel configuration would not have been a red flag?
  - _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
    Some (usually larger) boats can have movable keels - lifting or swing. It's usually controlled by hydraulics. If it's in rough weather you'd expect it to be fully extended to lower the centre of gravity. They're lifted when going into shallower areas.
  - mermaidnico 2y ago
    The keel is a blade on the bottom of the boat for stability. The built in ones tend to slow down performance, so newer boats have adjustable keels that raise and lower. If the keel had been extended, it would’ve lowered the boat’s center of gravity and given more stability. In a water spout however, not sure anything could’ve been helped. They needed to spend the night on land.
- cpncrunch 2y ago
  According to this article, it was partially raised, and that would be normal when going into a port: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/21/within-a-few-minutes-there-was-nothing-left-sailors-on-sinking-of-bayesian-superyacht https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/21/within...
notatoad 2y ago
>There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt foul play. doesn't that make it even more suspicious? the boat goes down, most of the people on it survive, but the guy who ripped off HP and his banker and his lawyer all died. if you wanted to believe that the ship was sailed into a storm and the sinking was used as cover for a murder, it seems more plausible this way than if everybody on the ship had died. (to be clear, i don't really believe this is what happened. just trying to figure out why the captain surviving makes it less likely to be foul play)
- jongjong 2y ago
  Maybe they saw the storm coming towards them and they panicked and committed suicide.
- gizajob 2y ago
  HP aren’t the mafia. Proved by jury trial that it wasn’t his fault if HP overvalued his company. Caveat emptor.

jprd 2y ago

I mean, I really have to fight my brain from jumping into conspiracy theories at times. This is ABSOLUTELY one of them. Lot of other nasties running around without repercussions, but Karma/Simulation said nay to these cats. It is crazy hard to just shake off the coincidence at times.

nequo 2y ago
Do you think that the conspirators staged the boat trip by actively planning for a waterspout? What is the probability of a conspiracy like that succeeding?
nexus6 2y ago
Did you not read the statement of his wife? So explains in detail the storm.

celdon25 2y ago

Except the boat's keel was found to be raised, which is a suspicious red flag here.

defen 2y ago
> Except the boat's keel was found to be raised Can you explain what that means? Like...I vaguely know what a keel is, but what does it mean for it to be raised? Who raises it, and how, or what could have caused it to be raised? What keel configuration would not have been a red flag?
- _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
  Some (usually larger) boats can have movable keels - lifting or swing. It's usually controlled by hydraulics. If it's in rough weather you'd expect it to be fully extended to lower the centre of gravity. They're lifted when going into shallower areas.
- mermaidnico 2y ago
  The keel is a blade on the bottom of the boat for stability. The built in ones tend to slow down performance, so newer boats have adjustable keels that raise and lower. If the keel had been extended, it would’ve lowered the boat’s center of gravity and given more stability. In a water spout however, not sure anything could’ve been helped. They needed to spend the night on land.
cpncrunch 2y ago
According to this article, it was partially raised, and that would be normal when going into a port: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/21/within-a-few-minutes-there-was-nothing-left-sailors-on-sinking-of-bayesian-superyacht https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/21/within...

notatoad 2y ago

>There are 15 survivors including the Captain, so I doubt foul play. doesn't that make it even more suspicious? the boat goes down, most of the people on it survive, but the guy who ripped off HP and his banker and his lawyer all died. if you wanted to believe that the ship was sailed into a storm and the sinking was used as cover for a murder, it seems more plausible this way than if everybody on the ship had died. (to be clear, i don't really believe this is what happened. just trying to figure out why the captain surviving makes it less likely to be foul play)

jongjong 2y ago
Maybe they saw the storm coming towards them and they panicked and committed suicide.
gizajob 2y ago
HP aren’t the mafia. Proved by jury trial that it wasn’t his fault if HP overvalued his company. Caveat emptor.