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I wonder how Long COVID affects this given the Japanese are dropping out of work. https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/medical/20240821-OYT1T50067/ https://www.yomiuri.co

I wonder how Long COVID affects this given the Japanese are dropping out of work. https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/medical/20240821-OYT1T50067/ https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/medical/20240821-OYT1T50067/ The US has a scary picture too with ~11% of adults affected today: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/long-covid-update-2024.pdf https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/long-covid-update-20...

noworld 2y ago
I'm sure getting paid not to work has nothing to do with the long covid stats. https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-providers/civil-rights-covid19/guidance-long-covid-disability/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-providers/civil-rights-...
- pjc50 2y ago
  Claiming disability benefits is way harder than you think.
  - throwaway30248 2y ago
    A friend of mine just got a month off of work and it was trivial. All it took was telling a doctor they were tired and fatigued after COVID. Easily approved.
    - jasonlotito 2y ago
      Your friend told me he lied to you to make you look the fool because you happily repeat anything you hear.
    - pjc50 2y ago
      Why don't you do it, then, if it's so easy?
  - scruple 2y ago
    My wife is on long-term disability (Aflac) and they put her through the wringer constantly. It's as-if they have a progressive scheme they work through. As an individual reaches certain milestones, they're thrust into some new defensive position. Prove you have these problems that you have! They send very, very misleading and confusing paperwork to her Doctors offices. Sometimes the administration staff at her specialist fills it out incorrectly, and, *poof, just like that we're going 3-4 months without disability payments while it all gets sorted out through a game of telephone. Anyway, they're currently forcing her to appeal the SSAs decision to not give her Social Security benefits early... Which means we've had to retain a lawyer to help us understand what we're dealing with, to help us shuffle through the process, etc. Until such a time as the appeal comes back she's, once again, without disability pay. Financially, for now, we're fine, but it's been a nonstop a headache. It's a non-trivial part of her time every week to manage this situation. Hours and hours spent on the phone with Aflac, collecting a seemingly endless amount of documentation, oftentimes having to submit, resubmit, re-resubmit the same documentation. Having to get new opinions, being told to retrain to a different career through their job placement people, etc. And it's all bullshit, and Aflac knows it -- my wife is a Senior SWE, she isn't retraining to a different career that 1) will somehow lessen the physical turmoil she's in, and 2) pays her as well as she's currently paid. And nevermind the idea that they can force you to get a new job anyway. But that doesn't matter. The goal is to keep you on the defensive, keep your back against the wall. Aflac pays an army of people to keep you totally entangled in their bullshit. And usually she deals with her case manager, but sometimes some random case manager will call her up and they're always very, very hostile. They're very clearly trying to get an emotional reaction out of you. They pretend to not know all of the details of the case, but they're calling in a "case manager" position. They berate you, they try to get you to slip up and admit to fraud, whatever. It's a fishing expedition. It's happened probably 4 times over the last 18 months or whatever. It just never stops. It makes me wonder why I bother with supplemental at all. If I'm dead, are my wife and kids going to have to walk through Hell and back to get that money? What's the fucking point?
- nolok 2y ago
  One, you either didn't understand your link or over simplified to extract the scenario that fitted your view, that is not a very healthy way to discourse for you nor for the community. Saying you have long covid does not mean you can claim disability nor that you get money for said disability, it's like step one on a thirty step process. Two, you would be surprised at how quickly staying home not doing anything gets boring. Ask any at home parent after the kids "went away". That there is a share of the population who would enjoy this yes, that this is most people no. We're simply not made to not have challenges and activity in life, both physically nor mentally.
- thenerdhead 2y ago
  Long COVID is a well documented health issue affecting many workers. Here is a recent publication in nature regarding how many hours are being lost in various economies. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6/tables/1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6/tables/1

noworld 2y ago

I'm sure getting paid not to work has nothing to do with the long covid stats. https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-providers/civil-rights-covid19/guidance-long-covid-disability/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-providers/civil-rights-...

pjc50 2y ago
Claiming disability benefits is way harder than you think.
- throwaway30248 2y ago
  A friend of mine just got a month off of work and it was trivial. All it took was telling a doctor they were tired and fatigued after COVID. Easily approved.
  - jasonlotito 2y ago
    Your friend told me he lied to you to make you look the fool because you happily repeat anything you hear.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    Why don't you do it, then, if it's so easy?
- scruple 2y ago
  My wife is on long-term disability (Aflac) and they put her through the wringer constantly. It's as-if they have a progressive scheme they work through. As an individual reaches certain milestones, they're thrust into some new defensive position. Prove you have these problems that you have! They send very, very misleading and confusing paperwork to her Doctors offices. Sometimes the administration staff at her specialist fills it out incorrectly, and, *poof, just like that we're going 3-4 months without disability payments while it all gets sorted out through a game of telephone. Anyway, they're currently forcing her to appeal the SSAs decision to not give her Social Security benefits early... Which means we've had to retain a lawyer to help us understand what we're dealing with, to help us shuffle through the process, etc. Until such a time as the appeal comes back she's, once again, without disability pay. Financially, for now, we're fine, but it's been a nonstop a headache. It's a non-trivial part of her time every week to manage this situation. Hours and hours spent on the phone with Aflac, collecting a seemingly endless amount of documentation, oftentimes having to submit, resubmit, re-resubmit the same documentation. Having to get new opinions, being told to retrain to a different career through their job placement people, etc. And it's all bullshit, and Aflac knows it -- my wife is a Senior SWE, she isn't retraining to a different career that 1) will somehow lessen the physical turmoil she's in, and 2) pays her as well as she's currently paid. And nevermind the idea that they can force you to get a new job anyway. But that doesn't matter. The goal is to keep you on the defensive, keep your back against the wall. Aflac pays an army of people to keep you totally entangled in their bullshit. And usually she deals with her case manager, but sometimes some random case manager will call her up and they're always very, very hostile. They're very clearly trying to get an emotional reaction out of you. They pretend to not know all of the details of the case, but they're calling in a "case manager" position. They berate you, they try to get you to slip up and admit to fraud, whatever. It's a fishing expedition. It's happened probably 4 times over the last 18 months or whatever. It just never stops. It makes me wonder why I bother with supplemental at all. If I'm dead, are my wife and kids going to have to walk through Hell and back to get that money? What's the fucking point?
nolok 2y ago
One, you either didn't understand your link or over simplified to extract the scenario that fitted your view, that is not a very healthy way to discourse for you nor for the community. Saying you have long covid does not mean you can claim disability nor that you get money for said disability, it's like step one on a thirty step process. Two, you would be surprised at how quickly staying home not doing anything gets boring. Ask any at home parent after the kids "went away". That there is a share of the population who would enjoy this yes, that this is most people no. We're simply not made to not have challenges and activity in life, both physically nor mentally.
thenerdhead 2y ago
Long COVID is a well documented health issue affecting many workers. Here is a recent publication in nature regarding how many hours are being lost in various economies. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6/tables/1 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03173-6/tables/1