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Since we are generalizing. Runner here, I only communicate with cyclists by means of rude hand gestures because cyclists think they own the road and leave no r

by Bhilai 2y ago

Since we are generalizing. Runner here, I only communicate with cyclists by means of rude hand gestures because cyclists think they own the road and leave no room for pedestrians. At the stop sign near my house, not one cyclist slows down or stops and infact many have yelled at me when I am running across. V2V probably wont solve this problem but I wish cyclists start to yield to pedestrians and stay a safe distance away from us runners because we dont want to get hit by cyclist folks.

nonameiguess 2y ago
Honestly, as a runner I have a similar problem with other pedestrians. So many people walk in groups of three plus abreast taking up the entire sidewalk, pay no attention whatsoever to whether anyone else is on the sidewalk coming their way, and even single people stray back and forth wandering in a zig zag pattern, wearing noise-canceling earphones, and won't look up from their screen, making it all but impossible to safely pass them except by luck. Nobody has common courtesy and they all think they own the road. Everyone. It isn't just drivers. But drivers are nonetheless the most dangerous because they're operating heavy machinery that kills you on impact.
- AcerbicZero 2y ago
  Its also a problem on the roads for cars/motorcycles; 4+ lanes wide, with a car in each lane going 3mph under the speed limit totally oblivious to the world around them, as traffic piles up behind them. Common courtesy should be a more important component of the whole education process.
TomK32 2y ago
Hehe, luckily I'm both a cyclist and a runner. I am quite annoyed by fellow cyclists who ride on sidewalks but I understand that many don't feel safe on roads that I consider a nice sprint segment despite (or because of) lots of fast moving cars around me when I try to beat that Strava KOM... It's a lot about subjective safety feeling: Many cyclists feel safer on sidewalks, runners feel safer without cyclists, scooters and cars around them and motorists feel quite safe all the time in their metal box. Separating traffic, slowing down cars in towns and cities is the only way forward and even though it might seem very slow going or even small reversals like in Spain are taking place: It will happen within our lifetime.

by Bhilai 2y ago

nonameiguess 2y ago

Honestly, as a runner I have a similar problem with other pedestrians. So many people walk in groups of three plus abreast taking up the entire sidewalk, pay no attention whatsoever to whether anyone else is on the sidewalk coming their way, and even single people stray back and forth wandering in a zig zag pattern, wearing noise-canceling earphones, and won't look up from their screen, making it all but impossible to safely pass them except by luck. Nobody has common courtesy and they all think they own the road. Everyone. It isn't just drivers. But drivers are nonetheless the most dangerous because they're operating heavy machinery that kills you on impact.

AcerbicZero 2y ago
Its also a problem on the roads for cars/motorcycles; 4+ lanes wide, with a car in each lane going 3mph under the speed limit totally oblivious to the world around them, as traffic piles up behind them. Common courtesy should be a more important component of the whole education process.

TomK32 2y ago

Hehe, luckily I'm both a cyclist and a runner. I am quite annoyed by fellow cyclists who ride on sidewalks but I understand that many don't feel safe on roads that I consider a nice sprint segment despite (or because of) lots of fast moving cars around me when I try to beat that Strava KOM... It's a lot about subjective safety feeling: Many cyclists feel safer on sidewalks, runners feel safer without cyclists, scooters and cars around them and motorists feel quite safe all the time in their metal box. Separating traffic, slowing down cars in towns and cities is the only way forward and even though it might seem very slow going or even small reversals like in Spain are taking place: It will happen within our lifetime.