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Again, that's a lot of words for "we murdered a few peasants and set the rest back into debt bondage to increase the profits for a handful of Americans". I don'

Again, that's a lot of words for "we murdered a few peasants and set the rest back into debt bondage to increase the profits for a handful of Americans". I don't see the relevance of talking about nuclear weapons either, when discussing what to do when a small Central American country sets a tax on large properties; seems like a non sequitur. Considerations about "preventing the spread of communism" don't really have much strength when you call "communism" something which (1) is the lightest possible land reform (expropriating land which is *both* unused and above a large threshold, and paying fair compensation for it), and (2) had tremendous effects on poverty levels, child mortality, economic productivity, etc, in just a few short years.

keiferski 2y ago
Uh..I'm not Eisenhower and as I said twice in my comment, I think these were ultimately dumb decisions. I am summarizing a complex event based on a few books I read, and I am telling you what the decision-making rationale was (according to the books I read) from the people that made the decisions, not that I thought they were good decisions. My mistake for thinking you actually wanted an answer and not just to argue with the messenger. Next time, go read the book yourself if you want a comprehensive answer.
- andrepd 2y ago
  No, I understand the "stated reasons", the point is they were not the real reasons. That's like saying the motivation for the 2022 Ukraine invasion was "denazification": yes it's the stated reason, no it's not the real reason.
  - keiferski 2y ago
    Again - if you read about the era and understand that the US was in various proxy conflicts with the communist USSR, and understand the motivations of the people in power at the time, the stated reason of trying to curb communism is entirely logical - although again, the reason of protecting American corporate interests was a factor too, although not the main factor. If you read the history and can make an alternative argument that cites actual evidence, I’d be glad to hear it. Otherwise you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.

keiferski 2y ago

Uh..I'm not Eisenhower and as I said twice in my comment, I think these were ultimately dumb decisions. I am summarizing a complex event based on a few books I read, and I am telling you what the decision-making rationale was (according to the books I read) from the people that made the decisions, not that I thought they were good decisions. My mistake for thinking you actually wanted an answer and not just to argue with the messenger. Next time, go read the book yourself if you want a comprehensive answer.

andrepd 2y ago
No, I understand the "stated reasons", the point is they were not the real reasons. That's like saying the motivation for the 2022 Ukraine invasion was "denazification": yes it's the stated reason, no it's not the real reason.
- keiferski 2y ago
  Again - if you read about the era and understand that the US was in various proxy conflicts with the communist USSR, and understand the motivations of the people in power at the time, the stated reason of trying to curb communism is entirely logical - although again, the reason of protecting American corporate interests was a factor too, although not the main factor. If you read the history and can make an alternative argument that cites actual evidence, I’d be glad to hear it. Otherwise you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.