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I often walk from the place I live at one end of the city here in Lublin to the artificial lake at the other end of the city and I drive a bus back. It goes thr

by ajuc 2y ago

I often walk from the place I live at one end of the city here in Lublin to the artificial lake at the other end of the city and I drive a bus back. It goes through the city center. It's 12 km on foot one way and probably like 20 km in the bus the other way (it can't drive on the pedestrian/bike path along the river). I walk these 12 km in 2 hours and the bus takes 40 minutes to take me back. There's 25 bus stops on the route I take (and a few more later). There's 2 optional bus stops but they are past the point where I get off the bus. So that's 1.5 minutes between bus stops (including the stops themselves which take around 5-15 seconds usually). What's wrong with walking being competetive with buses BTW? The point is that it's better than driving in a car.

dotnet00 2y ago
NYC is a big, dense city, it already takes forever to get around via public transport. If busses were about as fast as walking, people would just use cars. There's nothing all that bad about driving a car, so public trasport has to be at least better than walking to be better than driving. For example, looking at some of the commutes my family does (I work fully remotely), one has to spend 45 minutes to travel ~12km via subway, which would be 20 minutes via car, or 2 hours if walking. Another has to spend 2 hours to travel ~50km via subway and bus (all still within the city) or 30 minutes via car, with the equivalent walk apparently taking 7 hours. So, in the first case, that's an extra hour and a half they're losing per day to just transport, and in the second case that's 3 hours per day being lost to transport. Now add in time spent taking kids places, and basically you end up spending most of your life outside of work just getting around instead of actually doing stuff.
- ajuc 2y ago
  But you have to search for a parking space and walk from the parking space to the actual destination anyway. Which is like another 10 minutes on top of everything. So buses win over cars in the city center (as long as you can plan to the exact minute so you don't waste time waiting at the bus stops).

by ajuc 2y ago

dotnet00 2y ago

NYC is a big, dense city, it already takes forever to get around via public transport. If busses were about as fast as walking, people would just use cars. There's nothing all that bad about driving a car, so public trasport has to be at least better than walking to be better than driving. For example, looking at some of the commutes my family does (I work fully remotely), one has to spend 45 minutes to travel ~12km via subway, which would be 20 minutes via car, or 2 hours if walking. Another has to spend 2 hours to travel ~50km via subway and bus (all still within the city) or 30 minutes via car, with the equivalent walk apparently taking 7 hours. So, in the first case, that's an extra hour and a half they're losing per day to just transport, and in the second case that's 3 hours per day being lost to transport. Now add in time spent taking kids places, and basically you end up spending most of your life outside of work just getting around instead of actually doing stuff.

ajuc 2y ago
But you have to search for a parking space and walk from the parking space to the actual destination anyway. Which is like another 10 minutes on top of everything. So buses win over cars in the city center (as long as you can plan to the exact minute so you don't waste time waiting at the bus stops).