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> The "Undo" button in the toast is unnecessary because the user can just click the checkbox again I’ll start by saying that I particularly appreciate this fea

by csomar 2y ago

> The "Undo" button in the toast is unnecessary because the user can just click the checkbox again I’ll start by saying that I particularly appreciate this feature. There are countless times where I archived an email, only for the toast to tell me that I clicked the report spam button. I’d have been completely unaware otherwise. The other issue underlying toasts that the OP is missing: Web operations are async. There is no telling whether your operation succeeded, failed or did even register with the server it’s communicating with. A toast gives you an async update about the state of the server. I do agree that some toasts are obnoxious and for example can’t be dismissed while they are hiding an important UI content.

sebstefan 2y ago
OP completely missed the point of toasts. Some user actions can be 1) done accidentally 2) don't lend themselves to confirmation boxes because they are often also done repeatedly So if you accidentally press something and suddenly the email is gone from your inbox, you want a toast with an undo button. Or if you're just idling and you suddenly see a toast because you were leaning on a button, you'll be glad it's there too. Preferably with a description of what action was performed, and an undo button. In Gimp when you press Tab, it hides the whole UI with no way to go back if you don't know the shortcut. This is desirable for artists who want a focused view on their image. I can't tell you how much I would've liked a Toast with an "undo" button at that moment when I pressed it accidentally and had to google "gimp how to fix interface disappeared", and if I was computer illiterate I don't even know how I would have reacted.
- autoexec 2y ago
  > So if you accidentally press something and suddenly the email is gone from your inbox, you want a toast with an undo button. Why? If an email suddenly vanishes and you don't want that you don't need a popup to tell you what happened, you can just Ctrl-Z and the email comes back
  - sebstefan 2y ago
    No, not for email. Tech illiterate people use email. They're not going to have the reflex to Ctrl+Z, but a toast with "undo" at least gives them the information that undoing is possible, even if they're not quick enough to click on it

by csomar 2y ago

sebstefan 2y ago

OP completely missed the point of toasts. Some user actions can be 1) done accidentally 2) don't lend themselves to confirmation boxes because they are often also done repeatedly So if you accidentally press something and suddenly the email is gone from your inbox, you want a toast with an undo button. Or if you're just idling and you suddenly see a toast because you were leaning on a button, you'll be glad it's there too. Preferably with a description of what action was performed, and an undo button. In Gimp when you press Tab, it hides the whole UI with no way to go back if you don't know the shortcut. This is desirable for artists who want a focused view on their image. I can't tell you how much I would've liked a Toast with an "undo" button at that moment when I pressed it accidentally and had to google "gimp how to fix interface disappeared", and if I was computer illiterate I don't even know how I would have reacted.

autoexec 2y ago
> So if you accidentally press something and suddenly the email is gone from your inbox, you want a toast with an undo button. Why? If an email suddenly vanishes and you don't want that you don't need a popup to tell you what happened, you can just Ctrl-Z and the email comes back
- sebstefan 2y ago
  No, not for email. Tech illiterate people use email. They're not going to have the reflex to Ctrl+Z, but a toast with "undo" at least gives them the information that undoing is possible, even if they're not quick enough to click on it