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Most recent light duty pickups drive like ass too. I've rented a Ram and a Silverado recently and between them sitting absurdly high stock, having a ludicrously

Most recent light duty pickups drive like ass too. I've rented a Ram and a Silverado recently and between them sitting absurdly high stock, having a ludicrously high belt line, and both too much sound deadening in the cab and the most distant dead feeling pedals and steering, it's sort of surprising people don't hit more stuff with these. Sitting in those trucks feels like I'm in a bigger class 5 truck, for no good reason. The beds sit stupidly high too. It's way easier to be attentive and connected in older trucks (mid-2000s and older Chevys for me), and they don't drive like total ass. It boggles the mind that people drop absolutely inordinate amounts of money on the King Ranch Escalade doo-doo trucks that don't seem to do work any better than any truck I've owned, but cost an arm and a leg when something goes wrong. The Telsa truck looks like one of the worst offenders: it's rare to see a vehicle that is THAT stupidly designed inside and out.

bluGill 2y ago
There are trucks and there are truck shaped cars. The law should differentiate between them. You want a truck exemption from fuel mileage - then it better be a truck. If it is a truck then dents from loading and hauling cargo are normal (though cargo should be tied down). Likewise scratched paint caused by off road driving are normal things for trucks with 4 wheel drive (buy a 2 wheel drive if you are only driving on road). If it is a truck you cannot consider cosmetic damage in the value, if it is road worthy then the value is about how many hours are on the engine and nothing else. (this just killed the used and trade in market for trucks so if you buy one you better keep it for 15000 engine hours)
aidenn0 2y ago
I came of age to drive in the 90s, and the first two pickups I drove were a 1984 ford ranger and a 1990 Toyota Pickup. Those were both what I would call "value" pickup trucks. They weren't fancy, but they moved shit around well. I know everyone says that the EPA killed small trucks in 2008[1] but Toyota replaced the "Toyota Pickup" with the less-practical Tundra in '95, and embiggened it in 2004, so I'm not convinced that companies would make them even were they legal. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM

bluGill 2y ago

There are trucks and there are truck shaped cars. The law should differentiate between them. You want a truck exemption from fuel mileage - then it better be a truck. If it is a truck then dents from loading and hauling cargo are normal (though cargo should be tied down). Likewise scratched paint caused by off road driving are normal things for trucks with 4 wheel drive (buy a 2 wheel drive if you are only driving on road). If it is a truck you cannot consider cosmetic damage in the value, if it is road worthy then the value is about how many hours are on the engine and nothing else. (this just killed the used and trade in market for trucks so if you buy one you better keep it for 15000 engine hours)

aidenn0 2y ago

I came of age to drive in the 90s, and the first two pickups I drove were a 1984 ford ranger and a 1990 Toyota Pickup. Those were both what I would call "value" pickup trucks. They weren't fancy, but they moved shit around well. I know everyone says that the EPA killed small trucks in 2008[1] but Toyota replaced the "Toyota Pickup" with the less-practical Tundra in '95, and embiggened it in 2004, so I'm not convinced that companies would make them even were they legal. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azI3nqrHEXM