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For me llm is faster stackoverflow without fear of my question being closed. I know the first answer will not be what I want. I know that I will have to refract

by dvh 2y ago

For me llm is faster stackoverflow without fear of my question being closed. I know the first answer will not be what I want. I know that I will have to refractor it to suit my style. I know it will be full of subtle bugs. Oh and I expect it to be free, I ain't paying for this just like I wasn't paying for stackoverflow. Finally I hope than in few years I will be able to just "sudo apt-get install llm llm-javascript llm-cooking llm-trivia llm-jokes" and it will all run locally on my low end computer and when I report bug, six months later it will be fixed when I update OS.

InDubioProRubio 2y ago
You are paying, the same way you paid for stack overflow.. you become part of the process, ask follow up questions, deepening the knowledge of the system. The same applies to AI. The old learning material is gone, your interaction is now the new learning material and ground truth. PS: Hourly rates for sw engineers: Range:€11 - €213 - so one hour on stackoverflow, searching and sub-querying resolving problems costs you or your employer up to 213€. It really depends on what you have negotiated.
- jononor 2y ago
  And unlike Stack Overflow, which is available to everyone online and has an open content license, the IP the users of the ChatGPT style services is entirely proprietary to the company. I am not interested in feeding their machine with my brainpower. On the other hand, I happily contribute to Stack Overflow, and open source software+hardware. I do not think I will integrate LLM into my engineering workflow until there is a good service/solution which builds up the commons. The huge companies already have way too much influence over key aspects of knowledge-based society.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    > I am not interested in feeding their machine with my brainpower How about DDG AI Chat? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=DuckDuckGo+AI+Chat&ia=chat&duckai=1 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=DuckDuckGo+AI+Chat&ia=chat&duckai=...
  - jeffhuys 2y ago
    Turn it off in the settings, then... Come on.
    - InDubioProRubio 2y ago
      Every month, every update, every week, every contract change, every day - the setting is in another menu, in another castle, the setting is a princess, kiss the button, the button is now on, now off, is now dark patterned, now it isn't, deliver proof of work to set the setting, solve 1 captcha, solve 20.. come on.. its rodeo time.
- jeffhuys 2y ago
  You know you can just turn off "Improve the model for everyone" in the settings, right?

by dvh 2y ago

InDubioProRubio 2y ago

You are paying, the same way you paid for stack overflow.. you become part of the process, ask follow up questions, deepening the knowledge of the system. The same applies to AI. The old learning material is gone, your interaction is now the new learning material and ground truth. PS: Hourly rates for sw engineers: Range:€11 - €213 - so one hour on stackoverflow, searching and sub-querying resolving problems costs you or your employer up to 213€. It really depends on what you have negotiated.

jononor 2y ago
And unlike Stack Overflow, which is available to everyone online and has an open content license, the IP the users of the ChatGPT style services is entirely proprietary to the company. I am not interested in feeding their machine with my brainpower. On the other hand, I happily contribute to Stack Overflow, and open source software+hardware. I do not think I will integrate LLM into my engineering workflow until there is a good service/solution which builds up the commons. The huge companies already have way too much influence over key aspects of knowledge-based society.
- fsflover 2y ago
  > I am not interested in feeding their machine with my brainpower How about DDG AI Chat? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=DuckDuckGo+AI+Chat&ia=chat&duckai=1 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=DuckDuckGo+AI+Chat&ia=chat&duckai=...
- jeffhuys 2y ago
  Turn it off in the settings, then... Come on.
  - InDubioProRubio 2y ago
    Every month, every update, every week, every contract change, every day - the setting is in another menu, in another castle, the setting is a princess, kiss the button, the button is now on, now off, is now dark patterned, now it isn't, deliver proof of work to set the setting, solve 1 captcha, solve 20.. come on.. its rodeo time.
jeffhuys 2y ago
You know you can just turn off "Improve the model for everyone" in the settings, right?