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I feel the exact same way. I have felt 0 need to use an LLM in my current workflow. If I could explain concisely what my problem is in English - then I would al

I feel the exact same way. I have felt 0 need to use an LLM in my current workflow. If I could explain concisely what my problem is in English - then I would already know the answer. In that case why would I be asking AI the question. And I don't want opinionated answers to subjective questions. Why run that through a filter, I can investigate better myself through links on the internet. By the way - I think AI or ML whatever has some valid uses right now. but mostly in image processing domain - so like recognizing shapes in some bounded domain OK yea. Generative image - NOT bad but theres always this "AI GLOW" to each image. Something is always off. Its some neat tools but a race to the bottom and mostly users want to generate explicit content lets be real. and they will become increasingly more creative and obtuse to get around the guards. nothing is stopping you from entering the * industry and making tons off money. but that industry is always doing good. a friend recently suggested to use AI to generate generic icons for my game. Thats a really good use case. but does that radically change the current economy? [BTW GENERIC STUFF ONLY UNTILL I could hire someone because i prefer that experience way more. you can get more interesting results. 4 eyes are better than 2.

bruce511 2y ago
>> If I could explain concisely what my problem is in English - then I would already know the answer. In that case why would I be asking AI the question. And I don't want opinionated answers to subjective questions. Why run that through a filter, I can investigate better myself through links on the internet. I am an experienced programmer, but I find myself (for the first time) doing a deep-dive in SQL and specifically building code that will run against multiple SQL engines. I fed my list of engines into AI. As I'm discovering the really weird corners of SQL I asking the AI to compare one db against the other. My prompts are usually no more than 3 or 4 words. It gives me quick helpful answers highlighting where things are the same and where they are different. I can then follow up in the specific docs if necessary (now that I know the function name.) Personally I'm somewhat anti-hype, I'll let others rave about "changing the world". But I have found it a useful tool - not so much for "writing my code" but for acting as my tutor as I learn new things. (I'm using it for more than just SQL or computers now.) I'm not sure it "changes thr economy" - but it can certainly change individual lives. Some jobs will go away. Others might be easier to do. It might make it easier to learn new skills.
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- mikhmha 2y ago
  Recently I saw the process of filling for 2 insurance claims through 2 different entities. First one used a great ai voice agent that does the process of filtering your query. it understood me perfectly. But then I still had to wait in line for an actual agent. Ok wait for 6 hours. Whatever. Call again - the 2nd time going through the same agent is painful. Its so slow. And all this just to connect me to a human - who was EXCELLENT. What did ai add? And for now a human has to be involved in any complex permission changes to your account. AND I like that. The 2nd agency I called them through phone. No ai. But it is excellent cause they do async processing. so you reserve a slot and they call you back. i don't care if those are not answered urgently. Because I just want to talk to a human.
  - bruce511 2y ago
    Your point is that AI is bad at some things, and in some cases misused. Which is of course abundantly true. But equally it doesn't prove, or even assert, the opposite. A bicycle may be bad at cross-country road trips, but that doesn't make it a bad choice for some other situations. Hence my earlier comment - I (and I suspect others) are finding it useful for some tasks. That is not to imply it is good at all tasks. Is it over-hyped? Of course yes. Welcome to IT where every new thing is over-hyped all the time.
  - structural 2y ago
    AI lets the agency better be able to afford to hire and keep the excellent humans around to solve complex problems. It's better than a human that also can't fix your issue themselves and has to ask you to transfer to the other person. Ideally, the AI agent would have let you book a callback time with the specific right human who's best able to fix your issue. Some companies are able to do this, and you, the customer, never realize that of the 100 specialists in the building, you got connected to the one person who understands your issue and has the tools to fix it. Customer service is hard because it has to filter out 90% noise, 9% fairly straightforward tasks, and the <1% of complex issues that need to be sent to the right human.
bambax 2y ago
I think llms are useful when you're trying to write something in a language you don't know well; then it speeds up the part where you need to check for simple idiosyncrasies. If you don't know the language at all it's dangerous because you may not understand the proposed program (and of course if you're an expert you don't need it at all). But llms won't help to find solutions to a general, still unspecified problem.

bruce511 2y ago

>> If I could explain concisely what my problem is in English - then I would already know the answer. In that case why would I be asking AI the question. And I don't want opinionated answers to subjective questions. Why run that through a filter, I can investigate better myself through links on the internet. I am an experienced programmer, but I find myself (for the first time) doing a deep-dive in SQL and specifically building code that will run against multiple SQL engines. I fed my list of engines into AI. As I'm discovering the really weird corners of SQL I asking the AI to compare one db against the other. My prompts are usually no more than 3 or 4 words. It gives me quick helpful answers highlighting where things are the same and where they are different. I can then follow up in the specific docs if necessary (now that I know the function name.) Personally I'm somewhat anti-hype, I'll let others rave about "changing the world". But I have found it a useful tool - not so much for "writing my code" but for acting as my tutor as I learn new things. (I'm using it for more than just SQL or computers now.) I'm not sure it "changes thr economy" - but it can certainly change individual lives. Some jobs will go away. Others might be easier to do. It might make it easier to learn new skills.

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mikhmha 2y ago
Recently I saw the process of filling for 2 insurance claims through 2 different entities. First one used a great ai voice agent that does the process of filtering your query. it understood me perfectly. But then I still had to wait in line for an actual agent. Ok wait for 6 hours. Whatever. Call again - the 2nd time going through the same agent is painful. Its so slow. And all this just to connect me to a human - who was EXCELLENT. What did ai add? And for now a human has to be involved in any complex permission changes to your account. AND I like that. The 2nd agency I called them through phone. No ai. But it is excellent cause they do async processing. so you reserve a slot and they call you back. i don't care if those are not answered urgently. Because I just want to talk to a human.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Your point is that AI is bad at some things, and in some cases misused. Which is of course abundantly true. But equally it doesn't prove, or even assert, the opposite. A bicycle may be bad at cross-country road trips, but that doesn't make it a bad choice for some other situations. Hence my earlier comment - I (and I suspect others) are finding it useful for some tasks. That is not to imply it is good at all tasks. Is it over-hyped? Of course yes. Welcome to IT where every new thing is over-hyped all the time.
- structural 2y ago
  AI lets the agency better be able to afford to hire and keep the excellent humans around to solve complex problems. It's better than a human that also can't fix your issue themselves and has to ask you to transfer to the other person. Ideally, the AI agent would have let you book a callback time with the specific right human who's best able to fix your issue. Some companies are able to do this, and you, the customer, never realize that of the 100 specialists in the building, you got connected to the one person who understands your issue and has the tools to fix it. Customer service is hard because it has to filter out 90% noise, 9% fairly straightforward tasks, and the <1% of complex issues that need to be sent to the right human.

bambax 2y ago

I think llms are useful when you're trying to write something in a language you don't know well; then it speeds up the part where you need to check for simple idiosyncrasies. If you don't know the language at all it's dangerous because you may not understand the proposed program (and of course if you're an expert you don't need it at all). But llms won't help to find solutions to a general, still unspecified problem.