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Nice strawman. As I stated, the abstract idea alone is not much value to me. iOS is much better than android for the things I do (web, text, gaming!, etc), and

by jshen 14y ago

Nice strawman. As I stated, the abstract idea alone is not much value to me. iOS is much better than android for the things I do (web, text, gaming!, etc), and I have yet to see a killer feature on android as a result of this "control". I think it's telling that you didn't point to a single app on android that adds significant value which doesn't exist on iOS because of "control". As far as hackers go, I've been an emacs user for over a decade, I think I know something about hacker ethic. At some point in my life, probably after kids, my time became more important to me. Hacking up my own RSS reader, or maybe my own keyboard, etc is not the best use of my. Regarding control, I have a droid x2 and I can't upgrade to android 4.0. I promise that an iPhone as old is this x2 can get the latest version of iOS

josteink 14y ago
"Nice strawman"? And then following with up with asking me to name apps to illustrate why a being able to fix things which annoys you is a good thing? Do you need an example of why having medicine when terminally ill is a good thing? How fundamentally disconnected from the reality of things can you possibly be? But here you go. Example. I don't want to be disturbed while I am in a meeting. I can tell my Android phone (via apps) that whenever I have a appointment in my corporate calendar (you see I can have plenty of calendars) which has the term "meeting" in its title (so it doesn't collide with "meeting up with friends" in my personal calendar), the phone should always be in silent mode. I can have all my SMS auto-synched in the background to my gmail, live. And all my phone history. Via third party apps. Google didn't think about that one, but on Android that is not a problem. I can do all that. Because that fits me. You can't do that on iOS. Unless Apple decides to add it. If Apple doesn't come up with an idea, your platform can't do it. That sucks. I don't want my platform to be limited to its creators imagination. That is a recipe of how to kill innovation, not breed it.
- jshen 14y ago
  I can't install android 4.0 on my phone which is less than a year old. Ignoring that is being disconnected from reality.
  - josteink 14y ago
    If you are going to compare apples to Androids that way, and how about doing it in a way which makes sense? No a random HTC phone may not be upgradable to Android 4, but neither is my iPhone 3G. Is that an argument against either iphone or Android? No. If you are going to cite platform advantages tied to going full vertical, you need to compare iOS on Apple hardware with Android on Google hardware. And guess what? That works out the same.
    - jshen 14y ago
      an iphone less than a year old can be upgraded. Even on a Nexus you can find yourself without the upgrade for extended periods of time: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/27/verizon-to-blame-for-lack-of-galaxy-nexus-update/ http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/27/verizon-to-blame-for... It does not work out the same. QED
      - josteink 14y ago
        Congratulations on getting further and further from the point, constantly drawing new straw men while accusing mebof so, and losing all arguments arguments so far. So far you have proven that you as a iPhone-user are retarded and unable to get back basic point, have no perspective, trolling or all the above. I'll stop wasting my time on you. You seem like the kind of person who would deem even a death sentence superior to anything as long as it comes from Apple.
        jshen 14y ago
        I provided arguments with evidence. You resorted to ad hominem.

by jshen 14y ago

josteink 14y ago

"Nice strawman"? And then following with up with asking me to name apps to illustrate why a being able to fix things which annoys you is a good thing? Do you need an example of why having medicine when terminally ill is a good thing? How fundamentally disconnected from the reality of things can you possibly be? But here you go. Example. I don't want to be disturbed while I am in a meeting. I can tell my Android phone (via apps) that whenever I have a appointment in my corporate calendar (you see I can have plenty of calendars) which has the term "meeting" in its title (so it doesn't collide with "meeting up with friends" in my personal calendar), the phone should always be in silent mode. I can have all my SMS auto-synched in the background to my gmail, live. And all my phone history. Via third party apps. Google didn't think about that one, but on Android that is not a problem. I can do all that. Because that fits me. You can't do that on iOS. Unless Apple decides to add it. If Apple doesn't come up with an idea, your platform can't do it. That sucks. I don't want my platform to be limited to its creators imagination. That is a recipe of how to kill innovation, not breed it.

jshen 14y ago
I can't install android 4.0 on my phone which is less than a year old. Ignoring that is being disconnected from reality.
- josteink 14y ago
  If you are going to compare apples to Androids that way, and how about doing it in a way which makes sense? No a random HTC phone may not be upgradable to Android 4, but neither is my iPhone 3G. Is that an argument against either iphone or Android? No. If you are going to cite platform advantages tied to going full vertical, you need to compare iOS on Apple hardware with Android on Google hardware. And guess what? That works out the same.
  - jshen 14y ago
    an iphone less than a year old can be upgraded. Even on a Nexus you can find yourself without the upgrade for extended periods of time: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/27/verizon-to-blame-for-lack-of-galaxy-nexus-update/ http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/27/verizon-to-blame-for... It does not work out the same. QED
    - josteink 14y ago
      Congratulations on getting further and further from the point, constantly drawing new straw men while accusing mebof so, and losing all arguments arguments so far. So far you have proven that you as a iPhone-user are retarded and unable to get back basic point, have no perspective, trolling or all the above. I'll stop wasting my time on you. You seem like the kind of person who would deem even a death sentence superior to anything as long as it comes from Apple.
      - jshen 14y ago
        I provided arguments with evidence. You resorted to ad hominem.