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> Are companies really just YOLOing and plugging LLMs into everything Look we still can't get companies to bother with real security and now every marketing/sa
by Eji1700 2y ago
> Are companies really just YOLOing and plugging LLMs into everything
Look we still can't get companies to bother with real security and now every marketing/sales department on the planet is selling C level members on "IT WILL LET YOU FIRE EVERYONE!"
If you gave the same sales treatment to sticking a fork in a light socket the global power grid would go down overnight.
"AI"/LLM's are the perfect shitstorm of just good enough to catch the business eye while being a massive issue for the actual technical side.
- surfingdino 2y agoThe problem is that you cannot unteach it serving that shit. It's not like there is file you can delete. "It's a model, that's what it has learned..."
- simonw 2y agoIf you are implementing RAG - which you should be, because training or fine-tuning models to teach them new knowledge is actually very ineffective, then you absolutely can unteach them things - simply remove those documents from the RAG corpus.
- __loam 2y agoI still don't understand the hype behind rag. Like yeah it's a natural language interface into whatever database is being integrated, but is that actually worth the billions being spent here? I've heard they still hallucinate even when you are using rag techniques.
- simonw 2y agoBeing able to ask a question in human language and get back an answer is the single most useful thing that LLMs have to offer. The obvious challenge here is "how do I ensure it can answer questions about this information that wasn't included in its training data?" RAG is the best answer we have to that. Done well it can work great. (Actually doing it well is surprisingly difficult - getting a basic implementation of RAG up and running is a couple of hours of hacking, making it production ready against whatever weird things people might throw at it can take months.)
- __loam 2y agoI recognize it's useful. I don't think it justifies the cost.
- surfingdino 2y agoOf course, it doesn't. Most of those questions are better answered using SQL and those which are truly complex can't be answered by AI.
- gregatragenet3 2y agoWhat cost? A few cents per question answered?
- __loam 2y agoThe billions spent on R&D, legal fees, and inference?
- neverokay 2y agoBeing able to ask a question in human language and get back an answer is the single most useful thing that LLMs have to offer. I’m gonna add: - I think this thing can become a universal parser over time.
- eru 2y agoThere's no global power grid. There are lots of local power grids.
- Eji1700 2y agoThere's also no mass marketing campaign for sticking forks in electrical sockets in case anyone was wondering.
- Terr_ 2y agoPedantically, yes, but it doesn't really matter to OP's real message: The problematic effect would be global in scope, as people everywhere would do stupid things to an arbitrary number of discrete grids or generation systems.
- mns 2y ago> Look we still can't get companies to bother with real security and now every marketing/sales department on the planet is selling C level members on "IT WILL LET YOU FIRE EVERYONE!" Just recently one of our C level people was in a discussion on Linkedin about AI and was asking: "How long until an AI can write full digital products?", meaning probably how long until we can fire the whole IT/Dev departments. It was quite funny and sad in the same time reading this.