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That's 500k vehicles not 500k people. While the plurality of vehicles could be single-occupant passenger vehicles, a good chunk of those vehicles are freight,

That's 500k vehicles not 500k people. While the plurality of vehicles could be single-occupant passenger vehicles, a good chunk of those vehicles are freight, multiple-occupant passenger vehicles, and some are even busses.

panick21_ 2y ago
The overwhelming majority of vehicles are single-occupant, specially during commute.
msisk6 2y ago
Being someone that has sat in a lot of traffic in Texas on these interchanges, the number of vehicles with more than one person is a rounding error. There's a few trucks hauling freight, but they try to miss the cities during rush hour.
- kube-system 2y ago
  > There's a few trucks hauling freight There's a lot of trucks hauling freight. The US has the largest train network in the world, it notoriously handles primarily freight, and still, more than 70% of freight in the US goes by truck. If these roads are the average urban interstate highways, then about 10%ish of the traffic is heavy truck traffic. https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/statistics/2020/vm1.cfm https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/statistics/2020/v...
  - msisk6 2y ago
    I meant there's few trucks during rush hour. Overnight it's a different story. Last month I was going down south I-35 around midnight and got stuck in construction traffic in Waco and it was about 80% trucks.
    - kube-system 2y ago
      Ah, I see. That's really just another reason why a 500k vehicles/day problem shouldn't be approximated as a problem of moving 500k people only during rush hour.
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  1 vehicle = 1 person is especially noticeable when you're in the HOV lane zooming past traffic, a sea of thousands of vehicles that can't take the HOV lane. In fact there are so few people in the HOV lane that I always feel like I'm doing something wrong when I take it, like I misunderstood the rules. It can't be this easy. Nah, I really am the only person on the highway with more than one person in the car.
kuschku 2y ago
Sure, and we'd still need a highway and an interchange to handle the busses, trucks and taxis that'd remain. But that could probably be handled by a US Highway and a diamond interchange instead of multiple interstates and a 6-layer interchange.

panick21_ 2y ago

The overwhelming majority of vehicles are single-occupant, specially during commute.

msisk6 2y ago

Being someone that has sat in a lot of traffic in Texas on these interchanges, the number of vehicles with more than one person is a rounding error. There's a few trucks hauling freight, but they try to miss the cities during rush hour.

kube-system 2y ago
> There's a few trucks hauling freight There's a lot of trucks hauling freight. The US has the largest train network in the world, it notoriously handles primarily freight, and still, more than 70% of freight in the US goes by truck. If these roads are the average urban interstate highways, then about 10%ish of the traffic is heavy truck traffic. https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/statistics/2020/vm1.cfm https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/statistics/2020/v...
- msisk6 2y ago
  I meant there's few trucks during rush hour. Overnight it's a different story. Last month I was going down south I-35 around midnight and got stuck in construction traffic in Waco and it was about 80% trucks.
  - kube-system 2y ago
    Ah, I see. That's really just another reason why a 500k vehicles/day problem shouldn't be approximated as a problem of moving 500k people only during rush hour.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
1 vehicle = 1 person is especially noticeable when you're in the HOV lane zooming past traffic, a sea of thousands of vehicles that can't take the HOV lane. In fact there are so few people in the HOV lane that I always feel like I'm doing something wrong when I take it, like I misunderstood the rules. It can't be this easy. Nah, I really am the only person on the highway with more than one person in the car.

kuschku 2y ago

Sure, and we'd still need a highway and an interchange to handle the busses, trucks and taxis that'd remain. But that could probably be handled by a US Highway and a diamond interchange instead of multiple interstates and a 6-layer interchange.