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This is nothing but appeasement. Publishers at large won't know what hit them once searchgpt drops. The written internet is doomed.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Publishers at large won't know what hit them once searchgpt drops A multi-billion dollar cheque? Voluntarily relinquished or via a settlement?
freediver 2y ago
> The written internet is doomed. As someone who used searchgpt and is also building a competing product, I can say this is simply not going to be the case. LLM assisted search leaves just too much to be desired and there is no future in which this is the primary way for humans to consume information. It needs to be augmented with credible sources of information or rather using LLMs only makes sense once you have access to credible source information in the first place, and want to have an augmented version of the information you consume (and are happy with non discrete outcomes).
- gregw134 2y ago
  Are you allowed to tell us about SearchGPT, and what you like/dislike about it?
  - freediver 2y ago
    Its use case is limited and even in those cases where is it well suited, you have to be ready that its purpose is to at best inform, not educate.
labster 2y ago
It’s true. Why turn to the mainstream media when GPT can just hallucinate the news that I want to hear?
- time-less-ness 2y ago
  The best fabricated and entirely hallucinated news comes from the mainstream. AI-generated content is too logical and internally-consistent to be real.
  - tourmalinetaco 2y ago
    AI-generated content is both trained on and “guardrailed” against said hallucinated news. There is no escape.
leereeves 2y ago
If the written internet is doomed, what will searchgpt train on in the future? In that scenario, in a few years it will be out of date and doomed too.
- squarefoot 2y ago
  > If the written internet is doomed, what will searchgpt train on in the future? It will train on what people say in their cellphones or in front of their Smart TVs or in their deeply connected cars. If data is being transmitted after encryption (within a closed and undocumented chip) to a server in a country that doesn't cooperate with authorities, then the same data is pseudo-anonymized and bought back on a different channel, that will make very hard to stop it.
  - smegger001 2y ago
    social media, press releases, and what ever is left surviving of traditional journalism after the internet then social media and now ai kill anything local or niche, so the big news papers of note (new york time/wa post/wall st journal or the local equivalent) and transcripts of network news, and the international wire service news feeds (ap news, Reuters) and any popular blog of verified real people still are out there always checking them to make sure their content isn't itself ai generated.
Vayu 2y ago
I'd argue that dead internet theory actually provides more merit to places like news where they go through rounds of editorial processes. That being said, there're a lot of generated news platforms so it'll be up to the user to decide on who they trust.
Bluestein 2y ago
> The written internet is doomed. And the video internet is under ever-increasing enshittification.-
liveoneggs 2y ago
they can sign this deal with the devil and survive to fight another day or get eaten by him anyway
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  Maybe, for some of their magazines (Vogue, say). For CN Traveler, I'm pretty sure that readers want an actual picture of the interior of the new hotel, not an AI rendering of something that as yet has few actual pictures to train the model on. (For that matter, Vogue might have that same thing going on with fashion.)

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Publishers at large won't know what hit them once searchgpt drops A multi-billion dollar cheque? Voluntarily relinquished or via a settlement?

freediver 2y ago

> The written internet is doomed. As someone who used searchgpt and is also building a competing product, I can say this is simply not going to be the case. LLM assisted search leaves just too much to be desired and there is no future in which this is the primary way for humans to consume information. It needs to be augmented with credible sources of information or rather using LLMs only makes sense once you have access to credible source information in the first place, and want to have an augmented version of the information you consume (and are happy with non discrete outcomes).

gregw134 2y ago
Are you allowed to tell us about SearchGPT, and what you like/dislike about it?
- freediver 2y ago
  Its use case is limited and even in those cases where is it well suited, you have to be ready that its purpose is to at best inform, not educate.

labster 2y ago

It’s true. Why turn to the mainstream media when GPT can just hallucinate the news that I want to hear?

time-less-ness 2y ago
The best fabricated and entirely hallucinated news comes from the mainstream. AI-generated content is too logical and internally-consistent to be real.
- tourmalinetaco 2y ago
  AI-generated content is both trained on and “guardrailed” against said hallucinated news. There is no escape.

leereeves 2y ago

If the written internet is doomed, what will searchgpt train on in the future? In that scenario, in a few years it will be out of date and doomed too.

squarefoot 2y ago
> If the written internet is doomed, what will searchgpt train on in the future? It will train on what people say in their cellphones or in front of their Smart TVs or in their deeply connected cars. If data is being transmitted after encryption (within a closed and undocumented chip) to a server in a country that doesn't cooperate with authorities, then the same data is pseudo-anonymized and bought back on a different channel, that will make very hard to stop it.
- smegger001 2y ago
  social media, press releases, and what ever is left surviving of traditional journalism after the internet then social media and now ai kill anything local or niche, so the big news papers of note (new york time/wa post/wall st journal or the local equivalent) and transcripts of network news, and the international wire service news feeds (ap news, Reuters) and any popular blog of verified real people still are out there always checking them to make sure their content isn't itself ai generated.

Vayu 2y ago

I'd argue that dead internet theory actually provides more merit to places like news where they go through rounds of editorial processes. That being said, there're a lot of generated news platforms so it'll be up to the user to decide on who they trust.

Bluestein 2y ago

> The written internet is doomed. And the video internet is under ever-increasing enshittification.-

liveoneggs 2y ago

they can sign this deal with the devil and survive to fight another day or get eaten by him anyway

AnimalMuppet 2y ago
Maybe, for some of their magazines (Vogue, say). For CN Traveler, I'm pretty sure that readers want an actual picture of the interior of the new hotel, not an AI rendering of something that as yet has few actual pictures to train the model on. (For that matter, Vogue might have that same thing going on with fashion.)