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> Maybe "toasts" aren't the bee's knees, but they work as lagging indicator that something happened that I otherwise wouldn't notice, and in some apps even lets
by digging 2y ago
> Maybe "toasts" aren't the bee's knees, but they work as lagging indicator that something happened that I otherwise wouldn't notice, and in some apps even lets me undo the unwanted operation. That does a lot to relieve my anxiety and help me use software with less frustration.
All things that a message log does better than toasts!
- lolinder 2y agoWhy not both? A message log can always be consulted later, but it doesn't give you a live feed of things that are happening. I'm also ADHD and, like OP, I appreciate having the stream of toasts that lets me know what the software did. It's saved my butt a bunch of times when I accidentally do something I didn't mean to (deleting instead of archiving, for example). A message log would just get ignored, but toasts help a ton because they're visible.
- digging 2y agoA message log can also be visible...? The only differences between messages in toasts vs messages in a log is that toasts control the user rather than the other way around.
- lolinder 2y agoIsn't a toast just the tail of a message log that's visible for a few seconds after a new message is added? I don't always want the entire log to be occupying space on my screen, but I do want to see when new items get added.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoThe problem is that everyone implements toasts, and no one implements the message log, even though it's the latter that's more important to have.
- digging 2y agoExactly - a toast is, at best, a nice add-on to a message log. Although I maintain a well implemented message log already serves every single purpose toasts do, better.