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> Toasts also give you a good place to put other shortcuts like “Item updated. [View item]” that make it much easier to act on state changes Not if they go awa
by CRConrad 2y ago
> Toasts also give you a good place to put other shortcuts like “Item updated. [View item]” that make it much easier to act on state changes
Not if they go away, and take their “[View item]” button with them, before you've had time to read the notification, decide if you want to click the button, and actually get your cursor there to click it.
Which they usually do. So nyaaah, dubious benefit.
- lolinder 2y agoSo there are badly implemented toasts that have bad UX. That's not the same thing as the whole concept being bad.
- exmadscientist 2y agoIf something is so hard to implement that everyone who tries gets it wrong (to a first approximation), then maybe the concept is bad. Or, at least, the concept isn't fully baked and is missing something critical.
- lolinder 2y agoMost implementations of toasts-with-actions that I've seen don't have the problem OP described. I more often find myself manually dismissing them than wishing they'd have stuck around longer.
- TRiG_Ireland 2y agoSo because you are a fast reader and have a fast reaction time with your mouse, toasts are good for everyone? No.
- michaelmrose 2y agoShould complex websites have a notification center where you can look at prior notifications? Would this be alike enough to existing desktop metaphors to be easily recognizable or simply confusing. Maybe your browser should could have an icon for same instead making it more standardized across different sites.
- hunter2_ 2y ago> Browsers that support JavaScript typically implement the Notification API. This API asks for user confirmation to allow popups and give the programmer the opportunity to display notifications with a text (body) along with an descriptive icon and header. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_notification#JavaScript https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_notification#JavaScript
- TeMPOraL 2y agoOf course, this is just abused by sites to spew their garbage outside the confines of their own pages, which makes the API effectively dead.
- xp84 2y agoIndeed. I would rather all browsers just disable it by default with not even the popup asking if I want it. If I install a webapp as a PWA then maybe ask me. Otherwise? Website operators are on crack if they think I want them to be able to spam my desktop multiple times a day even months or years after I visited them!
- Maxion 2y agoYep, if this feature was limited to the window in focus, then the API could make sense. The way it is now, I know all savvy users will just block it, and many of the non savvy ones will too... Complete waste of time to dedicate developer resources too over e.g. in-line toasts.
- TRiG_Ireland 2y agoSometimes (as in a chat app) I want the window to notify me when anything changes, so I don't have to sit and look at it.
- xp84 2y ago