> Edit: For Some reason I forgot about Xbox and Kinect. So yes, they do have extensive manufacturing experience, but boy was the Original Xbox a disaster with t

> Edit: For Some reason I forgot about Xbox and Kinect. So yes, they do have extensive manufacturing experience, but boy was the Original Xbox a disaster with the RROD. There's manufacturing consumer electronics and then there's manufacturing consumer electronics profitably. This is where Apple shines and Microsoft shows that they need to learn a thing or two. Not only is Apple building far more iPad/iPhone/iPod/Mac than Microsoft is building Xbox, its hardware divisions are profit machines whereas Microsoft makes comparatively little profit on its hardware. Actually, The entertainment/devices division had a loss of $225 million last quarter.