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Ethically Sourced Lena Picture
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- jeffreygoesto 2y agoFor reference: https://lenna.org https://lenna.org
- littlecranky67 2y agoI get a security warning about potential malicious website when trying to following that link from Firefox.
- dist-epoch 2y ago> The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
- sillysaurusx 2y agoDitto for safari, but I was able to click through. The website seems anything but malicious, so I wonder why.
- jeffreygoesto 2y agoI guess getting a proper certificate was too much effort before LetsEncrypt and that site is pretty (pun, if you want) old...
- pavel_lishin 2y agoAh, if only Morten's name was Lenny...
- tokai 2y agoWhat makes it ethically sourced? Both this and the original was taken with consent. Is it that noone will get horny from this new one? Because in that case I have bad news, some people love round bearded men. But seriously, I don't understand how this is better than the original. They have the same issues.
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- lsb 2y agoThe model rescinded her consent to be used as a technical benchmark photo, a while ago
- geraldwhen 2y agoThat’s not how that works. Internet history should not be destroyed because of prudism gained in old age.
- sillysaurusx 2y agoConversely, there’s nothing wrong with respecting someone’s choice. I was going to write “No one’s stopping you from using Lenna,” but admittedly if you tried to submit a paper with it, you’d face a stiff headwind. I don’t think that’s her fault though.
- speedgoose 2y agoWe can also be nice.
- lsb 2y agoThe history is still there, in archives, and modern usage is what we’re talking about
- TiredOfLife 2y agoNo copyright infringement.
- telesilla 2y agoThe original, which is for sure a lovely photo, is difficult because the image exists for a purpose which isolates, and simultaneously draws attention to, certain demographics. I recommended checking out Berger's series Ways of Seeing, which explains it a lot better than I can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ways_of_Seeing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ways_of_Seeing I'm sure Lena could say she had the photo taken for herself and her own enjoyment of her beauty, however it was paid for by by a men's magazine so self-appreciation probably not what she or the photographer had in mind. "Berger asserts that only twenty or thirty nudes in the European oil painting tradition depict a woman as herself rather than as a subject of male idealisation or desire."
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- sillysaurusx 2y agoI was going to object that the original had a complicated background and lots of contrasting colors (which is important when testing graphics algorithms), but this one actually fits the bill too. The background might be white, but there are still plenty of dark areas.
- mainecoder 2y ago20 years later the person in the picture regrets his presence in the picture and for perpetuating micro toxic masculinity aggression by making light of the very situation the late brave Lena faced and suffered through her time and it is with this in mind that the person in the picture would no longer want to be included in hyper reality image research papers.
- Arnt 2y agoDidn't she appear on stage at siggraph and say something very different? Citation needed.
- pointlessone 2y agoLenny.png
- nickthegreek 2y agoPreviously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35010229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35010229 (March 3, 2023 — 298 points, 217 comments)
- johnea 2y agoTitle is completely misleading. There was no ethics breach in sourcing the original Lena photo. It should also be made explicit here, that for decades Lena herself had no issue with the photo or it's use in CS. Other people began to complain, and Lena felt they had a point about exploitation of women, and agreed to back that cause.
- defrost 2y ago> There was no ethics breach in sourcing the original Lena photo. Aside from the mass copyright infringement? eg: Optical Engineering, Vol. 31, Issue 1, (January 1992). Editorial: Copyright Problems https://doi.org/10.1117/12.60707 https://doi.org/10.1117/12.60707 and every other public reproduction of a drum scan of a pulled apart Playboy centrefold.
- rfl890 2y agoSexy.