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At this point bringing up the ELIZA argument is basically bad faith gaslighting… Finding bugs in some models doesn’t mean you have a point about intelligence.

by hnfong 2y ago

At this point bringing up the ELIZA argument is basically bad faith gaslighting… Finding bugs in some models doesn’t mean you have a point about intelligence. If somebody could apply a similar argument to dismiss human intelligence, you don’t have a point. And here it goes: the most advanced human intelligence can’t reliably multiply large numbers or recall digits of Pi. Obviously humans are dumber than pocket calculators.

psb217 2y ago
Your counterargument is invalid. The most advanced human intelligence invented (or discovered) concepts like multiplication, pi, etc., and created tools to work around the ways in which these concepts aren't well handled by their biological substrate. When machine intelligences start inventing biological tools to overcome the limits of their silicon existence, you'll have a point.
- biomcgary 2y ago
  Isn't the comment you are responding to an example of: "When machine intelligences start inventing biological tools to overcome the limits of their silicon existence, you'll have a point"?
- mypalmike 2y ago
  Designing biological tools is not a commonly accepted bar for AGI.