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I'm not sure if this article has any merit without actual survey data. Most of us at HN live in this bubble of web-apps, stay-connected, iPhone/iPad/Android wor

I'm not sure if this article has any merit without actual survey data. Most of us at HN live in this bubble of web-apps, stay-connected, iPhone/iPad/Android world while there are probably many (literally) Mom&Pop shops that still rely on old technology because "it works" (and switching won't increase my revenue [developer tools are the exception]).

zaptheimpaler 14y ago
Very true. My contention though, is that the bubble we live in is most likely indicative of the future of technology. Especially given the fact that we've been seeing this trend of web-only apps EXPLODING and growing rapidly for a long time now, it looks like its just a matter of time before the average consumer is forced into the same ecosystem. For example, note that the iPhone and Android ecosystems are very much prevalent amongst the average consumer, and they have already accepted the ecosystem that forces them to pay for digital content that they don't really own, or use Google and Facebook when the information they have at their disposal coupled with their privacy policies are making them increasingly scary. It's strange, but I think the tech market is indifferent to violation of privacy or ownership rights. The success or failure is determined by functionality, UI etc. but not legal concerns. We have never before witnessed the creation of online ecosystems of this scope, so its understandable, but ultimately a mistake IMO.
ananddass 14y ago
Hi, Completely agree with you that Mom & Pop shops still rely in technology. They still arent conversant with Dropbox or Google Docs as much as we think they are. In any case they wont be the early adopters of such technologies. On data 1. on dev stats-about 52K independant devs out there hacking on iOS and Android. Not sure if there organizations out there that have 52K dedicated devs building mobile apps. 2. on WebGL stats-51% of browswers support it currently. http://codeflow.org/entries/2012/apr/25/webgl-statistics-and-the-state-of-webgl-html5/ http://codeflow.org/entries/2012/apr/25/webgl-statistics-and... HTML 5 seems to be around 58% (Slightly dated data) http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/stat-of-the-week-html5-desktop-market-share-at-581-max.html http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/stat-of-the-... 3. On Digital natives- http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/building_efficiency/gws/gwi/projects_workplace_innovation/digital-natives.html http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/buildi... http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Older-adults-and-internet-use/Main-Report/Internet-adoption.aspx http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Older-adults-and-int...

zaptheimpaler 14y ago

Very true. My contention though, is that the bubble we live in is most likely indicative of the future of technology. Especially given the fact that we've been seeing this trend of web-only apps EXPLODING and growing rapidly for a long time now, it looks like its just a matter of time before the average consumer is forced into the same ecosystem. For example, note that the iPhone and Android ecosystems are very much prevalent amongst the average consumer, and they have already accepted the ecosystem that forces them to pay for digital content that they don't really own, or use Google and Facebook when the information they have at their disposal coupled with their privacy policies are making them increasingly scary. It's strange, but I think the tech market is indifferent to violation of privacy or ownership rights. The success or failure is determined by functionality, UI etc. but not legal concerns. We have never before witnessed the creation of online ecosystems of this scope, so its understandable, but ultimately a mistake IMO.

ananddass 14y ago

Hi, Completely agree with you that Mom & Pop shops still rely in technology. They still arent conversant with Dropbox or Google Docs as much as we think they are. In any case they wont be the early adopters of such technologies. On data 1. on dev stats-about 52K independant devs out there hacking on iOS and Android. Not sure if there organizations out there that have 52K dedicated devs building mobile apps. 2. on WebGL stats-51% of browswers support it currently. http://codeflow.org/entries/2012/apr/25/webgl-statistics-and-the-state-of-webgl-html5/ http://codeflow.org/entries/2012/apr/25/webgl-statistics-and... HTML 5 seems to be around 58% (Slightly dated data) http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/stat-of-the-week-html5-desktop-market-share-at-581-max.html http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/stat-of-the-... 3. On Digital natives- http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/building_efficiency/gws/gwi/projects_workplace_innovation/digital-natives.html http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/buildi... http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Older-adults-and-internet-use/Main-Report/Internet-adoption.aspx http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Older-adults-and-int...