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These people are so sure they occupy the moral high ground, but they do not. If the trend continues it will be possible for anyone to materialize their artistic

by ckw 2y ago

These people are so sure they occupy the moral high ground, but they do not. If the trend continues it will be possible for anyone to materialize their artistic vision with great fidelity. I’m sure there are countless people who would have contributed culturally significant works in the past but for a lack of time or money or peculiar talents requisite for the physical production of such works. At the core of most objections to generative art is some combination of mercantile fear, distress at sunk costs, or the loss of one’s specialness. While all are understandable, a righteous person would weigh their own loss against society’s gain, and finding the balance so lopsidedly in favor of society, make of themselves a sacrifice.

jurip 2y ago
Right now, viewing the AI slop slowly filling the web, it's hard to see the gain, though. It's possible things will improve, but it's just as possible that guiding the tools will take skills most people will never master, just as they never mastered the non-automated drawing tools.
manuellabor 2y ago
>it will be possible for anyone to materialize their artistic vision with great fidelity This has already been possible for such a long time, and with the advent of internet the amount of free and easily accessible learning resources has grown massively. All you need to do is put in the effort to learn. As for money, pen and paper is less expensive than most computer hardware, i think. It's weird how in most fields not having 'talent' (whatever that is even supposed to mean) is not considered a valid excuse for not going through the effort of learning but for some reason when it comes to art, it gets a pass.
- klabb3 2y ago
  > It's weird how in most fields not having 'talent' (whatever that is even supposed to mean) is not considered a valid excuse for not going through the effort of learning but for some reason when it comes to art, it gets a pass. Oh but you don’t understand the grand conspiracy of the privileged artist class who use their talent they were unfairly born with to gatekeep access to art and drive up prices on their labor. AI companies who ingest their works as part of their supply chain are simply democratizing it so the rest of us can enjoy it. For a small fee of course, to redistribute artists' obscene wealth into the hands of the struggling AI corporations (public services are not free). And the vision can become real, where people with excellent visual taste but no birth talent, can finally attach a cyberpunk-robot-holding-the-earth concept art into their LLM generated blog posts.
hooverd 2y ago
I'd compare AI art to a diet of soda. It's tasty and maximal right now, but you never develop the ability to think out or work with art beyond pressing the button on the frictionless slop machine.

by ckw 2y ago

jurip 2y ago

Right now, viewing the AI slop slowly filling the web, it's hard to see the gain, though. It's possible things will improve, but it's just as possible that guiding the tools will take skills most people will never master, just as they never mastered the non-automated drawing tools.

manuellabor 2y ago

>it will be possible for anyone to materialize their artistic vision with great fidelity This has already been possible for such a long time, and with the advent of internet the amount of free and easily accessible learning resources has grown massively. All you need to do is put in the effort to learn. As for money, pen and paper is less expensive than most computer hardware, i think. It's weird how in most fields not having 'talent' (whatever that is even supposed to mean) is not considered a valid excuse for not going through the effort of learning but for some reason when it comes to art, it gets a pass.

klabb3 2y ago
> It's weird how in most fields not having 'talent' (whatever that is even supposed to mean) is not considered a valid excuse for not going through the effort of learning but for some reason when it comes to art, it gets a pass. Oh but you don’t understand the grand conspiracy of the privileged artist class who use their talent they were unfairly born with to gatekeep access to art and drive up prices on their labor. AI companies who ingest their works as part of their supply chain are simply democratizing it so the rest of us can enjoy it. For a small fee of course, to redistribute artists' obscene wealth into the hands of the struggling AI corporations (public services are not free). And the vision can become real, where people with excellent visual taste but no birth talent, can finally attach a cyberpunk-robot-holding-the-earth concept art into their LLM generated blog posts.

hooverd 2y ago

I'd compare AI art to a diet of soda. It's tasty and maximal right now, but you never develop the ability to think out or work with art beyond pressing the button on the frictionless slop machine.