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Really someone just needs to spotify this shit. Scrape everything and hand out pennies based on who attracted what eyesballs.

querez 2y ago
The problem is that this might end with a bad incentive structure that I think would lead to bad quality: it would push you to write the kind of articles that everyone wants to click on/pay for. So mostly clickbait. Emotional content instead of factual one. It's unlikely that this could finance the long-term, high-quality investigative journalism that actually defines high quality journals.
- cjs_ac 2y ago
  Newspapers have been dealing with this issue since the nineteenth century. I don't know how things work where you are in the world, but in the UK and Australia, newspapers are separated into broadsheets which have better-quality journalism and tabloids which are clickbait nonsense. (The terms come from the paper sizes they used to be printed on.) In the UK, the tabloids are further divided by the colours of their mastheads: the black-tops are less sensational; the red-tops are more sensational.
- protocolture 2y ago
  Seems like thats how the market is currently structured. Most of those paywalled sites are already dishing out endless streams of emotive bs. What I want, is the ability to not pay a subscription that includes the emotive bs, but to read only the content I want.
etc-hosts 2y ago
It is the opinion of every musical artist that even extremely popular artists on Spotify make enough to buy a few boxes of graham crackers.
- protocolture 2y ago
  Yes. My understanding is that Spotify is reliant on a system used for radio broadcasts. Paying pennies to broadcast songs was already the structure. Artists make their money from merch and live gigs as it always has been. But now they can also target me for advertising based on the bands I listen to, to sell me merch and live gigs. Back to newspapers. Traditionally if a news paper article takes my fancy I pay a small fee to access that paper and not establish a long term subscription for just that paper. A spotify type service could easily hand out credits in the same way.

querez 2y ago

The problem is that this might end with a bad incentive structure that I think would lead to bad quality: it would push you to write the kind of articles that everyone wants to click on/pay for. So mostly clickbait. Emotional content instead of factual one. It's unlikely that this could finance the long-term, high-quality investigative journalism that actually defines high quality journals.

cjs_ac 2y ago
Newspapers have been dealing with this issue since the nineteenth century. I don't know how things work where you are in the world, but in the UK and Australia, newspapers are separated into broadsheets which have better-quality journalism and tabloids which are clickbait nonsense. (The terms come from the paper sizes they used to be printed on.) In the UK, the tabloids are further divided by the colours of their mastheads: the black-tops are less sensational; the red-tops are more sensational.
protocolture 2y ago
Seems like thats how the market is currently structured. Most of those paywalled sites are already dishing out endless streams of emotive bs. What I want, is the ability to not pay a subscription that includes the emotive bs, but to read only the content I want.

etc-hosts 2y ago

It is the opinion of every musical artist that even extremely popular artists on Spotify make enough to buy a few boxes of graham crackers.

protocolture 2y ago
Yes. My understanding is that Spotify is reliant on a system used for radio broadcasts. Paying pennies to broadcast songs was already the structure. Artists make their money from merch and live gigs as it always has been. But now they can also target me for advertising based on the bands I listen to, to sell me merch and live gigs. Back to newspapers. Traditionally if a news paper article takes my fancy I pay a small fee to access that paper and not establish a long term subscription for just that paper. A spotify type service could easily hand out credits in the same way.