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Are you searching subscription streaming services or digital movie rental/purchase services? You can basically find any movie for rent/purchase on Apple TV Sto

by dangus 2y ago

Are you searching subscription streaming services or digital movie rental/purchase services? You can basically find any movie for rent/purchase on Apple TV Store (formerly iTunes Movies) or Vudu or whatever other similar service you want to choose from. They’re just not included with your Netflix/Max/Hulu subscription, which are the modern equivalent to basic cable. They may be on streaming services but only included on a rotating basis. This “no one will sell it to me for a reasonable price” thing is kind of BS. You’re just not willing to pay at all, or you’re only willing to pay basic cable price for access to a catalog with a size that doesn’t fit that price. It’s fitting then that the rental and physical media market collapsing now stops entire genres of movies from being made. As an example, people don’t rent comedies anymore, so they don’t get made and put into theaters.

Rinzler89 2y ago
>people don’t rent comedies anymore, so they don’t get made and put into theaters What an odd spin. People don't rent comedies anymore because there are no comedies made anymore for you to rent. And nobody's making comedies anymore because present day people are too easily offended by everything and raise hell on Twitter out of every joke.
- davkan 2y ago
  > And nobody's making comedies anymore because present day people are too easily offended by everything and raise hell on Twitter out of every stereotype joke. This is such a tired line. Comedies did not stop getting made because woke mobs were flaming them on Twitter, despite what Joe Rogan might have told you in his latest special plastered all over Netflix. There is a confluence of actual reasons why comedies aren’t prominent in theaters anymore. Studios stopped making mid budget movies. Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily. Comedies that performed poorly in theaters often broke even in vhs/dvd sales and rentals. Without that it’s more risky to make them. Movie goers don’t want to pay $30 for tickets and popcorn to see a comedy. Low budget comedies are saturated on streaming. High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy. And there’s certainly additional reasons more relevant than twitter users cancelling movies.
  - walterbell 2y ago
    > comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily Or foreign investment censorship priorities.
    - davkan 2y ago
      The censorship affects all movies with international audiences like marvel etc, not just comedies. I don’t think having to avoid saying Taiwan has caused a significant decrease in comedy productions.
      - walterbell 2y ago
        > avoid saying Taiwan And more: https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing/ https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing...
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    >This is such a tired line. That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it. >Studios stopped making mid budget movies. Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop. >Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily. I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park. >High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy. Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy? I've watched it and I don't think I've laughed once. It didn't even make me push air out of my nose.
    - davkan 2y ago
      > That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it. Yeah, because millionaire comedians who can say whatever they want on their massive platforms didn’t like getting flamed on twitter and the younger generation doesn’t care for their edgy jokes. “You can’t make jokes like that anymore” is just an excuse made by comedians who can’t make a joke audiences want to hear. Studios want to make money, if there was money in it they’d make it, regardless of taste. > Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop. “mid budget movies” > I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park. It’s not universal but it is more difficult to adequately dub a comedy than an action movie. Physical comedy like Mr. Bean doesn’t have that issue but comedies often perform poorly overseas for that reason. > Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy? Yes, it’s an action/comedy.
- al_borland 2y ago
  I think there is still a market for the old offensive comedies. There are comics out there who simply don’t care about getting cancelled, and it seems their audiences are big enough where the people complaining don’t matter. The number of people willing to speak up to support the right for people to make and enjoy movies, or content in general, that is offensive seems to be growing. Spotify kept Rogan and dumped the employees complaining about him. Netflix backed Chappelle with his specials. Eminem’s latest album debuted at #1. South Park is still going strong. The people raising hell on Twitter were never the audience, so it really doesn’t matter what they think. They should be making things for the people who are going to pay. Disney has been trying to please all those people and there stock has tanked. All I hear are people complaining about their various franchises and how they suck now. I guess those people on Twitter aren’t showing up to support the content they demanded.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    >I think there is still a market for the old offensive comedies There is but not from Hollywood. >There are comics out there who simply don’t care about getting cancelled Yeah but Disney and major studios won't touch them. >The people raising hell on Twitter were never the audience The doesn't mean Disney and the rest aren't pandering to online social activists. Just look at the new Snow White where they're pushing the girl boss trope who doesn't need a man, doesn't clean the Dwarves' home, and didn't use real live actors for the Dwarves because Peter Dinklage complained about it being offensive to people with dwarfism. Hollywood lives in a bubble. >Disney has been trying to please all those people and there stock has tanked And they'll keep doing it as long as they own the world's biggest IPs like Star Wars, Marvel, etc. Once people stop watching their slop altogether they'll stop as well.
    - dangus 2y ago
      First off, let’s not forget that you’re criticizing a movie that isn’t even out yet. For all we know it could be a critically acclaimed box office smash hit when it comes out. Not that I hold my breath for these remakes, but the possibility exists. And it’s wildly disingenuous to be a film critic of a film that isn’t out yet. But anyway, this is funny to me. Snow White is a nearly 100 year old movie. It came out 22 years after Birth of a Nation. If you think a remake can work as a modern movie with zero changes that is kind of naive in itself isn’t it? It’s not like anyone is going to remake From Russia with Love and include the scenes where James Bond slaps women around. And I mean, yeah, technically, the original Snow White is probably pretty offensive to people with dwarfism. They’re all heavily dehumanized as lesser people with more flaws than Snow White. Snow White has to come in and fix their life essentially, cook and clean for them, etc. But anyway, I don’t think that’s the driving reason behind using animated dwarves, I think they couldn’t do some of the comedic elements as well with real actors as they can with exaggerated animation. There also aren’t a lot of people with dwarfism who are lead-quality actors. You need seven of them for that movie. My guess is that test footage wasn’t working.
phito 2y ago
I will not rent a movie, ever. If I buy it I should own it. They only want us to stream the content (when it's available) from them, and they looove removing the small amount of interesting content they have over time. The current system does not work for consumers, and people pirating media is a result of that. They need to get their shit together, not us. Meanwhile I'm more than happy to pay for Spotify.
- aurareturn 2y ago
  I sometimes pirate movies because I’m cheap. I know how and where to buy the movies. I don't (except for Netflix & Amazon Prime subscriptions) because I'm cheap. At least I’m being honest. Some people here are seriously justifying stealing with excuses like “stealing is more convenient and free so it’s the company’s fault”. Just admit that you don’t want to pay. It’s fine. Everyone knows. No need to come up with elaborate excuses to steal. Everyone can see through them.
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  - crtasm 2y ago
    Hmm, I think if you could actually buy and own a movie download without DRM for a reasonable price then a lot of people who'd otherwise pirate a copy would pay for it.
    - aurareturn 2y ago
      I think a MacBook Pro M3 Max should cost $2.35 after tax and it should let me install as much RAM as I want. If not, I should be justified to steal it.
      - crtasm 2y ago
        That doesn't sound like a reasonable price for one of the parties involved.
walterbell 2y ago
> You can basically find any movie for rent/purchase on Apple TV Store (formerly iTunes Movies) or Vudu If you look closely at film ownership and licensing, you'll know why this is not true. The production gold standard for content + commentary is Criterion Collection, who now have their own streaming service in addition to their blu-rays for restored films. Everything else is an unpredictable puzzle palace of variable quality, license availability windows, free-with-ads, digital codes or exclusivity when a studio (e.g. MGM, Paramount) is bought/sold by a streaming service. Vudu has a good service where you can get an HD digital copy for $2 if you own the bluray. Max 100 titles/year. But as usual, the selection of films for "Disc to Digital" is a random output of license quagmires.
CuriouslyC 2y ago
Ironically, I can buy a used DVD online in a lot of cases for less than the Apple/Amazon/YouTube rental price: https://nickelflix.com/collections/genty-used-dvds https://nickelflix.com/collections/genty-used-dvds

by dangus 2y ago

Rinzler89 2y ago

>people don’t rent comedies anymore, so they don’t get made and put into theaters What an odd spin. People don't rent comedies anymore because there are no comedies made anymore for you to rent. And nobody's making comedies anymore because present day people are too easily offended by everything and raise hell on Twitter out of every joke.

davkan 2y ago
> And nobody's making comedies anymore because present day people are too easily offended by everything and raise hell on Twitter out of every stereotype joke. This is such a tired line. Comedies did not stop getting made because woke mobs were flaming them on Twitter, despite what Joe Rogan might have told you in his latest special plastered all over Netflix. There is a confluence of actual reasons why comedies aren’t prominent in theaters anymore. Studios stopped making mid budget movies. Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily. Comedies that performed poorly in theaters often broke even in vhs/dvd sales and rentals. Without that it’s more risky to make them. Movie goers don’t want to pay $30 for tickets and popcorn to see a comedy. Low budget comedies are saturated on streaming. High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy. And there’s certainly additional reasons more relevant than twitter users cancelling movies.
- walterbell 2y ago
  > comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily Or foreign investment censorship priorities.
  - davkan 2y ago
    The censorship affects all movies with international audiences like marvel etc, not just comedies. I don’t think having to avoid saying Taiwan has caused a significant decrease in comedy productions.
    - walterbell 2y ago
      > avoid saying Taiwan And more: https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing/ https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing...
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  >This is such a tired line. That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it. >Studios stopped making mid budget movies. Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop. >Studios consider international audiences more than ever before and comedy doesn’t transcend cultures easily. I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park. >High budget action/comedy movies are being made instead e.g. fall guy. Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy? I've watched it and I don't think I've laughed once. It didn't even make me push air out of my nose.
  - davkan 2y ago
    > That doesn't mean it's not true. There's a reason people keep repeating it. Yeah, because millionaire comedians who can say whatever they want on their massive platforms didn’t like getting flamed on twitter and the younger generation doesn’t care for their edgy jokes. “You can’t make jokes like that anymore” is just an excuse made by comedians who can’t make a joke audiences want to hear. Studios want to make money, if there was money in it they’d make it, regardless of taste. > Have you checked Netflix? It's full of low budget slop. “mid budget movies” > I disagree. American and British comedies were incredibly popular with the youth in my Eastern European country. Same with humor from the GTA games and South Park. It’s not universal but it is more difficult to adequately dub a comedy than an action movie. Physical comedy like Mr. Bean doesn’t have that issue but comedies often perform poorly overseas for that reason. > Is Fall Guy supposed to be a comedy? Yes, it’s an action/comedy.
al_borland 2y ago
I think there is still a market for the old offensive comedies. There are comics out there who simply don’t care about getting cancelled, and it seems their audiences are big enough where the people complaining don’t matter. The number of people willing to speak up to support the right for people to make and enjoy movies, or content in general, that is offensive seems to be growing. Spotify kept Rogan and dumped the employees complaining about him. Netflix backed Chappelle with his specials. Eminem’s latest album debuted at #1. South Park is still going strong. The people raising hell on Twitter were never the audience, so it really doesn’t matter what they think. They should be making things for the people who are going to pay. Disney has been trying to please all those people and there stock has tanked. All I hear are people complaining about their various franchises and how they suck now. I guess those people on Twitter aren’t showing up to support the content they demanded.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  >I think there is still a market for the old offensive comedies There is but not from Hollywood. >There are comics out there who simply don’t care about getting cancelled Yeah but Disney and major studios won't touch them. >The people raising hell on Twitter were never the audience The doesn't mean Disney and the rest aren't pandering to online social activists. Just look at the new Snow White where they're pushing the girl boss trope who doesn't need a man, doesn't clean the Dwarves' home, and didn't use real live actors for the Dwarves because Peter Dinklage complained about it being offensive to people with dwarfism. Hollywood lives in a bubble. >Disney has been trying to please all those people and there stock has tanked And they'll keep doing it as long as they own the world's biggest IPs like Star Wars, Marvel, etc. Once people stop watching their slop altogether they'll stop as well.
  - dangus 2y ago
    First off, let’s not forget that you’re criticizing a movie that isn’t even out yet. For all we know it could be a critically acclaimed box office smash hit when it comes out. Not that I hold my breath for these remakes, but the possibility exists. And it’s wildly disingenuous to be a film critic of a film that isn’t out yet. But anyway, this is funny to me. Snow White is a nearly 100 year old movie. It came out 22 years after Birth of a Nation. If you think a remake can work as a modern movie with zero changes that is kind of naive in itself isn’t it? It’s not like anyone is going to remake From Russia with Love and include the scenes where James Bond slaps women around. And I mean, yeah, technically, the original Snow White is probably pretty offensive to people with dwarfism. They’re all heavily dehumanized as lesser people with more flaws than Snow White. Snow White has to come in and fix their life essentially, cook and clean for them, etc. But anyway, I don’t think that’s the driving reason behind using animated dwarves, I think they couldn’t do some of the comedic elements as well with real actors as they can with exaggerated animation. There also aren’t a lot of people with dwarfism who are lead-quality actors. You need seven of them for that movie. My guess is that test footage wasn’t working.

phito 2y ago

I will not rent a movie, ever. If I buy it I should own it. They only want us to stream the content (when it's available) from them, and they looove removing the small amount of interesting content they have over time. The current system does not work for consumers, and people pirating media is a result of that. They need to get their shit together, not us. Meanwhile I'm more than happy to pay for Spotify.

aurareturn 2y ago
I sometimes pirate movies because I’m cheap. I know how and where to buy the movies. I don't (except for Netflix & Amazon Prime subscriptions) because I'm cheap. At least I’m being honest. Some people here are seriously justifying stealing with excuses like “stealing is more convenient and free so it’s the company’s fault”. Just admit that you don’t want to pay. It’s fine. Everyone knows. No need to come up with elaborate excuses to steal. Everyone can see through them.
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- crtasm 2y ago
  Hmm, I think if you could actually buy and own a movie download without DRM for a reasonable price then a lot of people who'd otherwise pirate a copy would pay for it.
  - aurareturn 2y ago
    I think a MacBook Pro M3 Max should cost $2.35 after tax and it should let me install as much RAM as I want. If not, I should be justified to steal it.
    - crtasm 2y ago
      That doesn't sound like a reasonable price for one of the parties involved.

walterbell 2y ago

> You can basically find any movie for rent/purchase on Apple TV Store (formerly iTunes Movies) or Vudu If you look closely at film ownership and licensing, you'll know why this is not true. The production gold standard for content + commentary is Criterion Collection, who now have their own streaming service in addition to their blu-rays for restored films. Everything else is an unpredictable puzzle palace of variable quality, license availability windows, free-with-ads, digital codes or exclusivity when a studio (e.g. MGM, Paramount) is bought/sold by a streaming service. Vudu has a good service where you can get an HD digital copy for $2 if you own the bluray. Max 100 titles/year. But as usual, the selection of films for "Disc to Digital" is a random output of license quagmires.

CuriouslyC 2y ago

Ironically, I can buy a used DVD online in a lot of cases for less than the Apple/Amazon/YouTube rental price: https://nickelflix.com/collections/genty-used-dvds https://nickelflix.com/collections/genty-used-dvds