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Boeing could certainly be broken up, think AT&T. Also I don’t think Airbus would have a problem with Boeing going out of business.

by steve1977 2y ago

antiterra 2y ago
AT&T was broken up based on location, hence the term Regional Bell Operating Companies. I’m not sure how the relative straightforwardness of that approach maps to a company that basically has two main supply chains (737 in Renton and everything else in Everett with North Charleston as a satellite.)
- alphabettsy 2y ago
  Maybe they’re talking about Space, Aircraft, Weapons?
- alistairSH 2y ago
  There are ways... Space and weapons. Commercial narrow body (+ military derived from commercial) Commercial wide body. Then break up supply chain (where it hasn't been already).
fransje26 2y ago
> Also I don’t think Airbus would have a problem with Boeing going out of business. I'm not quite certain. Airbus is possibly quite happy to have a stumbling giant occupying that space and tripping over its own feet. It's a lot more comfortable than having to compete against a heavily subsided Chinese company, like what is happening in the EV market. (Not that they are a threat at the moment)
- alistairSH 2y ago
  Are any of the Chinese airframes certified for use in EU or USA? If not, is that 100% political, or is the engineeing/QC not up to standards (which is a bit of a LOL given the context of the question)?
  - fransje26 2y ago
    To my knowledge, none are, at the moment. This is partly due to engineering/QC not being up to standards, insofar that the airworthiness certificate delivered by the Chinese Aviation Administration is not recognized/trusted in the West. But it is not a political decision. Chinese manufacturers wanting to be able to sell and fly their airplanes in the West can simply apply for an EASA (or FAA) certification, like other manufacturers do. If they pass, they are good to go.
    - Flyingsolo 2y ago
      The problem is engineering at Boeing is now mostly outsourced (GE influence on that). Eroding decades of knowledge and skills for cheaper labor elsewhere

Boeing could certainly be broken up, think AT&T. Also I don’t think Airbus would have a problem with Boeing going out of business.

antiterra 2y ago

AT&T was broken up based on location, hence the term Regional Bell Operating Companies. I’m not sure how the relative straightforwardness of that approach maps to a company that basically has two main supply chains (737 in Renton and everything else in Everett with North Charleston as a satellite.)

alphabettsy 2y ago
Maybe they’re talking about Space, Aircraft, Weapons?
alistairSH 2y ago
There are ways... Space and weapons. Commercial narrow body (+ military derived from commercial) Commercial wide body. Then break up supply chain (where it hasn't been already).

fransje26 2y ago

> Also I don’t think Airbus would have a problem with Boeing going out of business. I'm not quite certain. Airbus is possibly quite happy to have a stumbling giant occupying that space and tripping over its own feet. It's a lot more comfortable than having to compete against a heavily subsided Chinese company, like what is happening in the EV market. (Not that they are a threat at the moment)

alistairSH 2y ago
Are any of the Chinese airframes certified for use in EU or USA? If not, is that 100% political, or is the engineeing/QC not up to standards (which is a bit of a LOL given the context of the question)?
- fransje26 2y ago
  To my knowledge, none are, at the moment. This is partly due to engineering/QC not being up to standards, insofar that the airworthiness certificate delivered by the Chinese Aviation Administration is not recognized/trusted in the West. But it is not a political decision. Chinese manufacturers wanting to be able to sell and fly their airplanes in the West can simply apply for an EASA (or FAA) certification, like other manufacturers do. If they pass, they are good to go.
  - Flyingsolo 2y ago
    The problem is engineering at Boeing is now mostly outsourced (GE influence on that). Eroding decades of knowledge and skills for cheaper labor elsewhere