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If someone is that consistently a bit late, I wonder if it’s something they experience with the same degree of moral and intentional charge as the author does.

by alwa 2y ago

If someone is that consistently a bit late, I wonder if it’s something they experience with the same degree of moral and intentional charge as the author does. I wonder, for that matter, if the author and coworkers have taken up their concerns directly with the chronic latecomer. Perspective from someone who identifies as a tidsoptimist, Swedish for “time optimist”: > I'm sure it seems ridiculous to people who are always on time. They may be puzzled as to why such a name was coined for such a circumstance and why anyone would spend time and effort contemplating it. But such people exist, such as myself. > I am not someone who enjoys being late everywhere. In reality, I dislike keeping people waiting, but honestly, my punctual arrivals don't happen very often. https://wordsoftheworlds.substack.com/p/tidsoptimist-a-time-optimist-one https://wordsoftheworlds.substack.com/p/tidsoptimist-a-time-...

romwell 2y ago
>Perspective from someone who identifies as a tidsoptimist, Swedish for “time optimist” I also wondered all those things, and loved the word tidsoptimist. Then I got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult at age 34, and it all clicked. "Tidsoptimism" is an ADHD trait: https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Being%20Late https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Being%20Late A part of it is what's literally called Time Blindness: https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Perception https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Perception https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Blindness https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Blindness The article we're discussing (as well the one you linked, and the one written by Tim Urban on the same issue[1], and the words you wrote) is a universal ADHD experience. Figuring out that this is how my brain works helped immensely. Turns out, there is no need to make up new terms (tidsoptimist, "chronically late person", etc). The words have already been invented. And many people have already worked out solutions, mitigation strategies (...and meds[2]). I hope that my links above will help some people learn something about themselves, and for others - to understand their friends and colleagues better. And for hell's sake, let's take the moral charge out of lateness itself. I'm not saying that it should be acceptable: to the extent that someone being late affects other people, there may (and should be!) consequences. But being late has a stigma even when it doesn't affect anyone else. And it makes it more difficult to have a conversation like this: "I have time blindness. Let's talk about what you'll do if I don't make it on time, and what the consequences will be. I don't want to make you wait." - which both helps avoid lateness and often allows for a solution other than "everyone will be angrily waiting for the late person". [1] https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/07/why-im-always-late.html https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/07/why-im-always-late.html [2] https://romankogan.net/adhd#Medication https://romankogan.net/adhd#Medication

by alwa 2y ago

romwell 2y ago

>Perspective from someone who identifies as a tidsoptimist, Swedish for “time optimist” I also wondered all those things, and loved the word tidsoptimist. Then I got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult at age 34, and it all clicked. "Tidsoptimism" is an ADHD trait: https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Being%20Late https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Being%20Late A part of it is what's literally called Time Blindness: https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Perception https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Perception https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Blindness https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Time%20Blindness The article we're discussing (as well the one you linked, and the one written by Tim Urban on the same issue[1], and the words you wrote) is a universal ADHD experience. Figuring out that this is how my brain works helped immensely. Turns out, there is no need to make up new terms (tidsoptimist, "chronically late person", etc). The words have already been invented. And many people have already worked out solutions, mitigation strategies (...and meds[2]). I hope that my links above will help some people learn something about themselves, and for others - to understand their friends and colleagues better. And for hell's sake, let's take the moral charge out of lateness itself. I'm not saying that it should be acceptable: to the extent that someone being late affects other people, there may (and should be!) consequences. But being late has a stigma even when it doesn't affect anyone else. And it makes it more difficult to have a conversation like this: "I have time blindness. Let's talk about what you'll do if I don't make it on time, and what the consequences will be. I don't want to make you wait." - which both helps avoid lateness and often allows for a solution other than "everyone will be angrily waiting for the late person". [1] https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/07/why-im-always-late.html https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/07/why-im-always-late.html [2] https://romankogan.net/adhd#Medication https://romankogan.net/adhd#Medication