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My mom does not fit that. She will not even look at a car that doesn't have CarPlay and doesn't mind using a touch-screen (though Tesla's extreme reliance on t

My mom does not fit that. She will not even look at a car that doesn't have CarPlay and doesn't mind using a touch-screen (though Tesla's extreme reliance on the touch-screen wiper controls was too much even for her).

lotsofpulp 2y ago
Carplay/Android Auto have nothing to do with the requirements in marcuskane2's comment. They are just an interface so your phone can use screen built into the car as a second monitor. You can buy really cheap units to add to any 10+ year old car and the car will still work as well as it did before, with no additional data sent to anyone (that was not already being sent by your phone).
- aidenn0 2y ago
  > Carplay/Android Auto have nothing to do with the requirements in marcuskane2's comment. They are just an interface so your phone can use screen built into the car as a second monitor. You can buy really cheap units to add to any 10+ year old car and the car will still work as well as it did before, with no additional data sent to anyone (that was not already being sent by your phone). 1. There is a strong correlation between built-in carplay and failing the requirements of marcuskane2's comment. 2. My mom would prefer a car that fails the requirements of marcuskane2's comment and had built-in carplay over the reverse.
  - lotsofpulp 2y ago
    > 1. There is a strong correlation between built-in carplay and failing the requirements of marcuskane2's comment. What is the significance of this? There is an even greater correlation between built-in wheels and failing the requirements of marcuskane2’s comment. Whatever negative effects of connectivity have nothing to do with CarPlay/Android Auto. They have to do with the availability of mobile broadband and software advances in 2024 that allow for more rent seeking. If anything CarPlay/Android Auto are the only thing preventing more rent seeking, by giving people the option to use modern navigation and audio entertainment without going through a car manufacturer.
    - aidenn0 2y ago
      After considering your comment, I think my view on car features was an accident of timing. Car infotainment systems tend to be on a 5-10 year lifecycle. This means that AA/CP were often being introduced with always-on cellular data, which is why I associated the former with the latter.

lotsofpulp 2y ago

Carplay/Android Auto have nothing to do with the requirements in marcuskane2's comment. They are just an interface so your phone can use screen built into the car as a second monitor. You can buy really cheap units to add to any 10+ year old car and the car will still work as well as it did before, with no additional data sent to anyone (that was not already being sent by your phone).

aidenn0 2y ago
> Carplay/Android Auto have nothing to do with the requirements in marcuskane2's comment. They are just an interface so your phone can use screen built into the car as a second monitor. You can buy really cheap units to add to any 10+ year old car and the car will still work as well as it did before, with no additional data sent to anyone (that was not already being sent by your phone). 1. There is a strong correlation between built-in carplay and failing the requirements of marcuskane2's comment. 2. My mom would prefer a car that fails the requirements of marcuskane2's comment and had built-in carplay over the reverse.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  > 1. There is a strong correlation between built-in carplay and failing the requirements of marcuskane2's comment. What is the significance of this? There is an even greater correlation between built-in wheels and failing the requirements of marcuskane2’s comment. Whatever negative effects of connectivity have nothing to do with CarPlay/Android Auto. They have to do with the availability of mobile broadband and software advances in 2024 that allow for more rent seeking. If anything CarPlay/Android Auto are the only thing preventing more rent seeking, by giving people the option to use modern navigation and audio entertainment without going through a car manufacturer.
  - aidenn0 2y ago
    After considering your comment, I think my view on car features was an accident of timing. Car infotainment systems tend to be on a 5-10 year lifecycle. This means that AA/CP were often being introduced with always-on cellular data, which is why I associated the former with the latter.