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I agree with almost all of that, including that there's no similar decline in China. I wonder whether it's really "because of the writing system" though. As a c
by red_admiral 2y ago
I agree with almost all of that, including that there's no similar decline in China. I wonder whether it's really "because of the writing system" though. As a counter-argument:
- We may have fewer individual symbols (letters) to memorise, but we still need to learn vocabulary in English.
- In European languages with grammatical gender you have to memorise that too (in German, a fork is feminine but a spoon is masculine), same for languages with declensions.
- And when you study something, you have all the technical terms in your field.
- But you don't simply memorise (if you're clever) what inode, tail recursion, ACID, syscall etc. mean, you subconsciously construct a knowledge graph.
- Chinese characters have structures and relationships too so you don't just have to memorise each one individually. For example, the character for "man" (as in "male") is a combination of person+field, I believe; whereas the word for "business" is apparently the compound buy+sell. So the "knowledge graph" argument still applies in China.
- Children in school in China don't need to know all the charaters, they start off with a useful subset and learn (or look up in dictionaries) more as they go along.
- cyberax 2y agoI actually learned both English and Mandarin Chinese :) Vocabulary in English is a problem, but it's much easier to learn than thousands of Han characters. Grammatical gender is not a problem for native speakers, you already know it from speaking the language. > - Chinese characters have structures and relationships too Most Han characters can be decomposed into simpler characters. But not all, and you still have to memorize that a character for "branch" (支)consists of "ten" (十)and "again" (又). And of course, some characters have multiple meanings, and even multiple readings. In short, you have to memorize a lot. > - Children in school in China don't need to know all the charaters, they start off with a useful subset and learn (or look up in dictionaries) more as they go along. Of course. But they still have to learn at least 2-3 thousand by the end of the school.