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Here's the problem: people want to believe misinformation because it confirms their own biases. "Dismantling" such machines will only confirm their suspicions t

Here's the problem: people want to believe misinformation because it confirms their own biases. "Dismantling" such machines will only confirm their suspicions that the "elites" are controlling the narrative. How would you propose to convince them otherwise? Perhaps a good start would be for politicians to start talking openly and freely about their constituent's concerns. But that's hard to do when they've all been bought by corporate interests, isn't it? Why would you believe that politicians say when you know they're just mouthpieces for those who've bought them. And now we arrive at the actual root of the problem - the ability of corporations and billionaires to "buy" political leaders. This has been going on for a while now and look where it's led us. The West is in decline, and I present this as one of the major root causes as to why.

johng 2y ago
Is there no such thing as a far left disinformation?
- quantified 2y ago
  There might be. Examples please though.
- taylodl 2y ago
  You sent me down an interesting rabbit hole researching far left disinformation. What I've learned is the far left tends to exaggerate rather than outright lie, there's usually a kernel of truth in what's being said. The deplorable conditions that have arisen to handle the influx of immigrants are "concentration camps." The ill effects of global warming are often exaggerated, which doesn't help because global warming is an actual problem we need to solve. Exaggerated claims just feed fuel to the deniers and now both sides have their heels dug in, going nowhere. Claiming US police are engaging in "genocide" against African Americans, which isn't true, but there are injustices and pervasive, systemic racism that we need to resolve. Again, the lying is preventing any progress being made on effective policy. So, as of now in 2024, it appears the far right is more likely to just make stuff up, and the far left is more likely to make exaggerated claims. I'm not saying one form of lying is better or worse than the other, in fact I think we'd all agree on this pervasive lying by both sides is another root cause of the problems we face today, but both sides do appear to have different strategies with their lies. That's interesting! Thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole!

johng 2y ago

Is there no such thing as a far left disinformation?

quantified 2y ago
There might be. Examples please though.
taylodl 2y ago
You sent me down an interesting rabbit hole researching far left disinformation. What I've learned is the far left tends to exaggerate rather than outright lie, there's usually a kernel of truth in what's being said. The deplorable conditions that have arisen to handle the influx of immigrants are "concentration camps." The ill effects of global warming are often exaggerated, which doesn't help because global warming is an actual problem we need to solve. Exaggerated claims just feed fuel to the deniers and now both sides have their heels dug in, going nowhere. Claiming US police are engaging in "genocide" against African Americans, which isn't true, but there are injustices and pervasive, systemic racism that we need to resolve. Again, the lying is preventing any progress being made on effective policy. So, as of now in 2024, it appears the far right is more likely to just make stuff up, and the far left is more likely to make exaggerated claims. I'm not saying one form of lying is better or worse than the other, in fact I think we'd all agree on this pervasive lying by both sides is another root cause of the problems we face today, but both sides do appear to have different strategies with their lies. That's interesting! Thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole!