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Where are you from? I think it is like that for a lot of people in most of the world

by immad 18y ago

cousin_it 18y ago
"To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part." I'm from Russia. Don't know about y'all, I wouldn't want to marry someone with a different attitude.
- immad 18y ago
  I agree, neither would I. But you have to consider the other perspective; they have 2 kids to support and his business hasn't received any custom for weeks. I think the statement "get a job or leave" is more of a generic "something has to change" statement not something completely literal.
  - thenduks 18y ago
    Perhaps she can get a walmart job.
  - potatolicious 18y ago
    Those words should never leave her mouth - only the worst of relationships involve threats of one side leaving. You either hang in there or you split, threats to get things done don't do any good, and are indicative of a very, very wrong relationship. I would've had said "get a job or get some business, your choice". The concept of divorce should never be hung over anyone's head to spur them to action.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 18y ago
      That's ridiculous: you're saying that either she puts up with a bad situation, or she leaves. What she did was basically say that she wanted a change. Doesn't matter whether or not those were her exact words: people say things they don't really mean when angry or frustrated and in this situation I'm sure she was both. It's a pretty fair bet that the statement "get a job or get out" wasn't the first thing she said about the situation! And in any case we only have his version of what happened.
- bd 18y ago
  I wanted to comment on cultural differences, though via brief googling I found out that US and Russia have actually very similar divorce rates. In both countries almost half marriages fail. Interesting. http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsWorld.shtml http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsWorld.shtml
  - blurry 18y ago
    @bd Just wanted to mention something that you may not be aware of. In most russian cities, housing stock is in very short supply (thanks to the legacy of centralized city planning) and people often stay together because otherwise they would have nowhere to live. I believe this skews the statistic in favor of the US, i.e. I believe that the russian divorce rates would be even higher if more people were able to live separately.
    - yan 18y ago
      The rates also don't capture the cultral differences n the realm of dating and marriage. A south-Asian country that features pre-arranged marriages might have a lower divorce rate but it won't mean the people are any happier.
    - bd 18y ago
      Then it is even more surprising, at least for me. I had Russia associated with strong families, people sticking together and so on. And it doesn't even seem to be a recent phenomenon. It looks like already in 1970s divorce rate in Russia was very high (40%): "Even in Communist times, the unhappiness of Russian families was hard to hide. The divorce rate in the 1970s was 40 percent; now it is 51 percent. In the past, sociologists blamed Soviet life, its regimentation, oppression, and lack of individual freedom, for men’s alcoholism and apathy to work and family. Today, the major factor appears to be an economic free fall that humiliates men who cannot provide for their families, to the point where they just walk away with little social censure. An estimated 15 to 20 percent of all Russian families are now headed by a single parent, 94 percent of whom are women." http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/russia.html http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/russia.html
- ii 18y ago
  I'm from Russia too. In my experience this "till death us do part" attitude changes to "get a lot of money or get out" pretty fast. Right after marriage. Women are women everywhere.

Where are you from? I think it is like that for a lot of people in most of the world

by immad 18y ago

Where are you from? I think it is like that for a lot of people in most of the world

"To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part." I'm from Russia. Don't know about y'all, I wouldn't want to marry someone with a different attitude.

immad 18y ago
I agree, neither would I. But you have to consider the other perspective; they have 2 kids to support and his business hasn't received any custom for weeks. I think the statement "get a job or leave" is more of a generic "something has to change" statement not something completely literal.
- thenduks 18y ago
  Perhaps she can get a walmart job.
- potatolicious 18y ago
  Those words should never leave her mouth - only the worst of relationships involve threats of one side leaving. You either hang in there or you split, threats to get things done don't do any good, and are indicative of a very, very wrong relationship. I would've had said "get a job or get some business, your choice". The concept of divorce should never be hung over anyone's head to spur them to action.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 18y ago
    That's ridiculous: you're saying that either she puts up with a bad situation, or she leaves. What she did was basically say that she wanted a change. Doesn't matter whether or not those were her exact words: people say things they don't really mean when angry or frustrated and in this situation I'm sure she was both. It's a pretty fair bet that the statement "get a job or get out" wasn't the first thing she said about the situation! And in any case we only have his version of what happened.
bd 18y ago
I wanted to comment on cultural differences, though via brief googling I found out that US and Russia have actually very similar divorce rates. In both countries almost half marriages fail. Interesting. http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsWorld.shtml http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsWorld.shtml
- blurry 18y ago
  @bd Just wanted to mention something that you may not be aware of. In most russian cities, housing stock is in very short supply (thanks to the legacy of centralized city planning) and people often stay together because otherwise they would have nowhere to live. I believe this skews the statistic in favor of the US, i.e. I believe that the russian divorce rates would be even higher if more people were able to live separately.
  - yan 18y ago
    The rates also don't capture the cultral differences n the realm of dating and marriage. A south-Asian country that features pre-arranged marriages might have a lower divorce rate but it won't mean the people are any happier.
  - bd 18y ago
    Then it is even more surprising, at least for me. I had Russia associated with strong families, people sticking together and so on. And it doesn't even seem to be a recent phenomenon. It looks like already in 1970s divorce rate in Russia was very high (40%): "Even in Communist times, the unhappiness of Russian families was hard to hide. The divorce rate in the 1970s was 40 percent; now it is 51 percent. In the past, sociologists blamed Soviet life, its regimentation, oppression, and lack of individual freedom, for men’s alcoholism and apathy to work and family. Today, the major factor appears to be an economic free fall that humiliates men who cannot provide for their families, to the point where they just walk away with little social censure. An estimated 15 to 20 percent of all Russian families are now headed by a single parent, 94 percent of whom are women." http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/russia.html http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/IES/russia.html
ii 18y ago
I'm from Russia too. In my experience this "till death us do part" attitude changes to "get a lot of money or get out" pretty fast. Right after marriage. Women are women everywhere.