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> It may feel comfortable to only be surrounded by people with the same cultural norms and upbringing as yourself, but if you only live in that bubble, you're p

> It may feel comfortable to only be surrounded by people with the same cultural norms and upbringing as yourself, but if you only live in that bubble, you're part of the problem. What problem? > Life is far better when we open up to new experiences and people, and that's exactly what diversity represents... Why do you believe you know what a good life is for other people? > I have never seen a culturally homogenous business succeed in the long term I'm sorry but there is so much nonsense in your comment, it's hard to know where to begin.

nyarlathotep_ 2y ago
> culturally homogenous business succeed in the long term This was literally all Western businesses until quite recently.
winternett 2y ago
You've made no point as to your views, you've only picked out parts of mine and then played higher ground.... There's nothing really to respond to in essence. Tell me why you're personally against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (With key skills and experience as the primary measure)? In my book, all of those things work better for everyone in finding success.
- somedude895 2y ago
  I don't believe there's any intrinsic value in diversity. I believe that there's truth in the argument that heterogeneity leads to lower group cohesion and solidarity. Personally I think that in business neither is it something desirable nor is it undesirable. As such, I'm against wasting resources and potentially hiring unsuitable candidates because some people believe it's morally correct. I'm decidedly against equity for multiple reasons. First off it's impossible to achieve. If you think even just of your own extended family, what would it take to achieve equity in say income and status? Who deserves how much in order to achieve equal outcomes? Secondly, who gets to decide all these things? Who's disadvantaged and why and by how much? How much is their own doing? How far are you going to drill down? There's so much potential for abuse for whoever makes those decisions. "Inclusion" I'm going to ignore because honestly suggesting someone is against it is mainly bait. The term seems to just be bunched in there with the other two, because it gives the acronym as a whole a stronger defense.

nyarlathotep_ 2y ago

> culturally homogenous business succeed in the long term This was literally all Western businesses until quite recently.

winternett 2y ago

You've made no point as to your views, you've only picked out parts of mine and then played higher ground.... There's nothing really to respond to in essence. Tell me why you're personally against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (With key skills and experience as the primary measure)? In my book, all of those things work better for everyone in finding success.

somedude895 2y ago
I don't believe there's any intrinsic value in diversity. I believe that there's truth in the argument that heterogeneity leads to lower group cohesion and solidarity. Personally I think that in business neither is it something desirable nor is it undesirable. As such, I'm against wasting resources and potentially hiring unsuitable candidates because some people believe it's morally correct. I'm decidedly against equity for multiple reasons. First off it's impossible to achieve. If you think even just of your own extended family, what would it take to achieve equity in say income and status? Who deserves how much in order to achieve equal outcomes? Secondly, who gets to decide all these things? Who's disadvantaged and why and by how much? How much is their own doing? How far are you going to drill down? There's so much potential for abuse for whoever makes those decisions. "Inclusion" I'm going to ignore because honestly suggesting someone is against it is mainly bait. The term seems to just be bunched in there with the other two, because it gives the acronym as a whole a stronger defense.